Cobb Tuning Hit With $2.9 Million Fine Over Emissions Defeat Devices

it comes with age. Male brain doesn't reach maturity until 25years on most and some n***r.........
I'm about double that age of maturity and still mostly opposed. The main problem for me is emissions programs being so easily abused by governing bodies as money grabs. Politicians can't help but see dollar signs if they can implement an "enforcement program" -- it's just in their DNA.
 
Arbitrary and capricious.
If it's not needed it's not needed.
I can't wait for Chevron deference to be ripped away from the epa like a bandaid dried to a scab.
LOL. Be careful what you ask for as the law is explicit. Any vehicle with a VIN cannot have emissions removed.
 
I am not sure what you mean, why aren't they?

I see it as cars being too costly, too much of a commitment, not a value-add in their lives.

I agree it's those reasons as well; actually more-so than my reason. Not that it's all bad, and as I get older I understand more (evo was cat-less) but Cobb has been doing this for 25 years and now the EPA wants to start cracking down on it (and while other big name shops go free.) I just feel like all the legislation adds on another reason why the car hobby is dying.
 
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IIRC SEMA caught the ear of some politicians who got the the EPA to back down beginning around 2023.
SEMA is about as toothless as they come for a trade organization. There is no way they got anyone to back down. How do I know? I've been on SEMA action committees on and off for over 20 years.
 
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I agree people forget how bad cities were before modern emission standards never mind diesel buses and trucks belching out black smoke. That "for off-road use" label only goes so far
No one paid attention to the off road use labels or cared. I do remember installing intakes with that warning as a teenager.
 
SEMA is about as toothless as they come for a trade organization. There is no way they got anyone to back down. How do I know? I've been on SEMA action committees on and off for over 20 years.
https://www.sema.org/news-media/ene...passes-sema-supported-bill-stop-epa-emissions

https://www.edelbrockgroup.com/corporate-news/2022/07/19/the-rpm-act-look-how-far-weve-come/

This is what I was thinking about:

https://www.sema.org/news-media/ene...t-defeat-devices-removed-epas-top-enforcement
 
SEMA can toot it's own horn like no other, every meeting is like a giant circle jerk of happiness and booming business. The SEMA show is in big trouble too, lots of companies pulling out of what is fast becoming a giant car show and drift event.
 
It already is common for the EPA to shut emissions defeat companies down. It's been going on for years.
I am not sure how all these local mom and pop shops get away with DEF\DPF system deleting. It is known that they do it. They must grease someones palms.
 
I am not sure how all these local mom and pop shops get away with DEF\DPF system deleting. It is known that they do it. They must grease someones palms.

Ive been saying all along that the HD thing and the Diesel cases are test cases, and it is all about revenue, they've figured out they can make money from it, but i'd be highly surprised if they go after any little guys with little potential for a payoff in form of healthy fine...
 
Ive been saying all along that the HD thing and the Diesel cases are test cases, and it is all about revenue, they've figured out they can make money from it, but i'd be highly surprised if they go after any little guys with little potential for a payoff in form of healthy fine...
Right, so about revenue not the environment. If it was over the environment, it would be easy to shut those shops down.
 
Just for the pee ons. Now talk about 6K jet flights a day, then the after burner specials etc.
Then what about that recent chevron deal or what ever it was? As well as the real issue that only a very small hand full know about.
Think deeply.
 
the EPA for decades hasn't enforced this rule for vehicles converted into dedicated race cars.
The “past precedent” rule should strip all power from any agency that refused to enforce the law as written from day one. Ignored it for 10 years? They can’t start now. Centralized control for things other than defense are fully anti-liberty.
 
The customers are just as responsible as the tuner. Personally I think this is great for car manufacturers. Now they can sell a EPA compliant tune and charge people for it, Just like Cobb, but it would be legal.
The base Cobb tune is legal. Just like Integrated Engineerings base tune. APR no longer makes a cat delete tune. The the issue is the cat delete.
 
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