Checked My Oil

[Mystic]

Well, Pennzoil has engine sequence testing results to prove that Pennzoil Ultra and Pennzoil Platinum clean. And there is evidence that Mobil 1 cleans also. We have a lot of photographs displayed at this website where people kept their engines clean using Mobil 1 or Pennzoil Platinum. And more people than just the OP here have said that using Pennzoil synthetics the engine oil seemed to get dark very quickly and then stayed cleaner longer as they continued to use the Pennzoil synthetics. More and more evidence that if you want a clean engine use Pennzoil Ultra or Mobil 1.

Less and less evidence for the expensive engine cleaners.

 

[V8man]

BlueOvalFitter, maybe do a 2nd OCI with PP, and see how the oil looks compared with your 1st OCI with PP.

Maybe on your 3rd OCI with PP everything will be normal.

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

Originally Posted By: V8man
BlueOvalFitter, maybe do a 2nd OCI with PP, and see how the oil looks compared with your 1st OCI with PP.

Maybe on your 3rd OCI with PP everything will be normal.

That's some good advice. But, you know me, I have to ask Q?'s.
I was hoping to go at least (I hope I don't faint here

) 7.5K miles then drain it. Opinions?

 

[Mystic]

If a lot of sludge is being removed I think it would be better to do short OCIs at first.

 

[V8man]

Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
Originally Posted By: V8man
BlueOvalFitter, maybe do a 2nd OCI with PP, and see how the oil looks compared with your 1st OCI with PP.

Maybe on your 3rd OCI with PP everything will be normal.

That's some good advice. But, you know me, I have to ask Q?'s.
I was hoping to go at least (I hope I don't faint here

) 7.5K miles then drain it. Opinions?


There have been some UOA's of PP where it has gone 10K and there was still some life left in the oil.

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

Originally Posted By: Mystic
If a lot of sludge is being removed I think it would be better to do short OCIs at first.

I'm listening......... 3K mile OCI?

 

[Ducman]

Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
Originally Posted By: V8man
BlueOvalFitter, Pennzoil Platinum claims it can clean up sludge or junk in your engine, looks like this claim is true.

That sort of has me worried, in a way. I mean, with my frequent OCI's my engine should be clean, according to what I know and what everyone else has said here.
I guess a UOA would be the only real thing that could determine what is going on in my engine, correct?

Don't get worried about it. Move into action.
If you want to get really serious about cleaning up your engines internals.
Put a bypass filtration system on the vehicle.
It will simply allow the detergent/dispersant additives to do their job to the fullest of their ability by not letting the oil become over loaded with gum, varnish & sludge.

I had a petrol engine that was cleaned up over a relatively short period of time, which was totally gunked up with "compacted sludge" in places that were about 14 mm deep (true), and naturally as one would expect, it was seriously varnished up all over the place as well.

That abused and neglected engine was cleaned up as an experiment to test the validity of the claims which are made about bypass filtration, by using some plain old cheapo dino 15w-40 diesel oil a new full flow filter and a Frantz filter.
When i stripped the engine down to rebuild it. It all looked quite respectable with little to no indication of what it's condition originally was

It really opened my eyes as to the potential of using superior filtration systems.

Amsoil have a good bypass system available as well.

It's worth considering for keeping the engine clean. let alone for the potential to explore extended drain intervals.
If one is genuinely considering UOAs. Integrating UOAs into the equation with bypass filtration will take you into another realm altogether when combined with extended drain intervals. It's a complete package, otherwise one is just playing around IMO.

Remember that a UOA wiil not give you much of an idea about the engines state of cleanliness. IMO a look down the filler plug hole will possibly tell you more, and its cheaper.

Cheers

 

[aquariuscsm]

Originally Posted By: V8man
Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
That's a trip,I've never seen anything like that before. Did you maybe inadvertently scrape the dipstick on a dirty part of the engine while removing it?

You are kidding, right?

I hope he is kidding.

Nope,serious as can be. I've never seen soot on a dipstick. Unless this is from a diesel I just don't see where soot would come from.

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

Originally Posted By: aquariuscsm
Nope,serious as can be. I've never seen soot on a dipstick. Unless this is from a diesel I just don't see where soot would come from.

No, it's not a diesel. It's an 07 Ford 4.2 V6. And, you're correct about the diesel dipstick soot. My dad owned his own heavy equipment company at one time and I do remember checking the oil in the machines and the dipsticks would leave black soot on the rags.
That and the diesel powered welding machines I have used.

 

[285south]

The oil is cleaning the engine. I notice the same with mine. I just never thought of taking a photo. I too was concern at first after seeing it on the paper towel but the countless threads here indicate that Mobil1 and PP/PU do indeed clean the engine.

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

Originally Posted By: 285south
The oil is cleaning the engine. I notice the same with mine. I just never thought of taking a photo. I too was concern at first after seeing it on the paper towel but the countless threads here indicate that Mobil1 and PP/PU do indeed clean the engine.

Can you provide a bit more info, please? What year, make, engine size, oil and weight, oil filter #, OCI, etc.
Thanx

 

[KD0AXS]

This is exactly why you should never check your oil.

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

Originally Posted By: KD0AXS
This is exactly why you should never check your oil.

Advice well taken. I just ordered a Chasity Belt for my dipstick.

 

[REDDOG]

To me, that looks like extremely fine iron particles like you see on auto trans dipsticks (no soot there). They always seemed to be attracted there, like by some polar charge. Can't recall seeing that on engine oil dipsticks, though.

Try this. Wipe the dipstick off extremely well after shut down and see if the black material is present. Re-insert the dipstick and wipe again and see if any additional is present. If it is "soot", carbon etc, I would think it would be evenly dispersed throughout the lube and would be present again following the second dip.

 

[901Memphis]

I'd run it about 7 , 500 miles and change the filter halfway through if you are paranoid. The detergents will hold the contamination and PP has a decent tbn.

 

[Scooby214]

Originally Posted By: Ducman
I had a petrol engine that was cleaned up over a relatively short period of time, which was totally gunked up with "compacted sludge" in places that were about 14 mm deep (true), and naturally as one would expect, it was seriously varnished up all over the place as well.

That abused and neglected engine was cleaned up as an experiment to test the validity of the claims which are made about bypass filtration, by using some plain old cheapo dino 15w-40 diesel oil a new full flow filter and a Frantz filter.
When i stripped the engine down to rebuild it. It all looked quite respectable with little to no indication of what it's condition originally was

It really opened my eyes as to the potential of using superior filtration systems.

Amsoil have a good bypass system available as well.

It's worth considering for keeping the engine clean. let alone for the potential to explore extended drain intervals.
If one is genuinely considering UOAs. Integrating UOAs into the equation with bypass filtration will take you into another realm altogether when combined with extended drain intervals. It's a complete package, otherwise one is just playing around IMO.

Remember that a UOA wiil not give you much of an idea about the engines state of cleanliness. IMO a look down the filler plug hole will possibly tell you more, and its cheaper.

Cheers


I have an old Franz filter that I pulled off an old Karmann Ghia before selling the car. What brand do you recommend for the filter media? I used Scott single ply toilet paper, but didn't know what would be best.

I've got another car in mind for the Franz Filter, but haven't decided on a best location for placing the canister.

 

[casper]

My 05 Kia sportage does the same thing. Not sure what the cause but the OUAs show no problems.

 

[bustednutz]

Is the dipstick aluminum? If so its not soot. Aluminum will leave black markings on clothing, hands, cloth, etc... after its been rubbed.

 

[volk06]

I'm getting the same thing as your seeing when I check the oil on the Taurus, which I got is November. It has Castrol Edge with Ti in it now and supposedly had a stead diet of QSUD before I bought it.

 

[BlueOvalFitter]

Originally Posted By: volk06
I'm getting the same thing as your seeing when I check the oil on the Taurus, which I got is November. It has Castrol Edge with Ti in it now and supposedly had a stead diet of QSUD before I bought it.

Volk06, what does it mean? Do you think it has something to do with the MC oil I had been using?