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Pete, where you been? We need your opinion on German OEM Certifications and the toughest to pass.
 
No such thing as THE best oil that exceeds all other competitors in every category. One oil will do better than another oil in one category and tie/lose to another oil in another category.

From what I’ve seen and read; even the over the counter oils perform amazing if used with a good filter and are changed regularly. It’s like saying what’s the best type of food? There isn’t one and never will be. Life’s about variety sometimes and you should try all the oils your heart pleases as long as they have the certifications you’re looking for. Simple!
 
Two guys are walking in the woods, when, all of a sudden, a bear comes down the path and starts chasing them. Both men take off running as hard as they can. One fellow easily outruns his buddy, but the buddy also easily outruns the bear. The men make it back to their car far ahead of the bear and drive off to safety. Which was the better runner? Does it matter? They both accomplished the most important goal, staying alive.

Same goes for oil, if it far outruns any engine, and the diffence between any two brands is miniscule at best, then what does it matter. I find it far more intestesting to decide which grade is best for a give set of circumstances, that the differences between brands.

I use a lot of SuperTech and Chevron, but am not married to either.
 
I wouldn't go that far. Lots of things about oil formulation that can make a difference to some people.

Well that is true to some degree. But is the $50 a gallon oil going to add 100,000 plus miles of life to your engine say over Mobil 1 in a 5 quart Jug at $22.38 a Jug. I have serious doubts about that. I am not taking best I'm talking average serviceability those oils are going to really provide for you.
 
Well that is true to some degree. But is the $50 a gallon oil going to add 100,000 plus miles of life to your engine say over Mobil 1 in a 5 quart Jug at $22.38 a Jug. I have serious doubts about that. I am not taking best I'm talking average serviceability those oils are going to really provide for you.

The real question is, "Will you get your extra $0.09 worth out of that 5 qt jug of PUP?".
 
There is no best, only API (and other) categories. Your engine manufacturer requires you select from that group.
None of those oil companies ever publish tests showing their oil in that group is superior. So, there are none only traditional marketing for sales and you yourself pay for that marketing in the price of the oil or you can select an oil that does not promote or market like Super Tech.

If one wishes to select an oil in the engine manufacturer required group of oils there is certainly nothing wrong with selecting one from the group of engine manufacturer required oils based on tests from Project Farm or Rat. We all do what makes us happy and if that method makes someone happy and its in the same group then it is just as valid as listening to people in forums recommend oils in the same group.

Personally real tests from Project Farm or Rat carry more weight then opinions with no tests, we ourselves determine if the test is valid enough for us, just as we ourselves determine if ones opinion is valid. I prefer tests and the same tests were used by Consumer reports many years ago, since then consumer reports state the oils are now so close they dont bother anymore.

Now that I have said all that, choose an oil that makes you happy in the category required by the engine maker, change it when required and the engine will outlast the vehicle/ If it doesnt, no oil brand would have made a difference.
 
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If one wishes to select an oil in the engine manufacturer required group of oils there is certainly nothing wrong with selecting one from the group of engine manufacturer required oils based on tests from Project Farm or Rat. We all do what makes us happy and if that method makes someone happy and its in the same group then it is just as valid as listening to people in forums recommend oils in the same group.

Personally real tests from Project Farm or Rat carry more weight then opinions with no tests, we ourselves determine if the test is valid enough for us, just as we ourselves determine if ones opinion is valid. I prefer tests and the same tests were used by Consumer reports many years ago, since then consumer reports state the oils are now so close they dont bother anymore.

Now that I have said all that, choose an oil that makes you happy in the category required by the engine maker, change it when required and the engine will outlast the vehicle/ If it doesnt, no oil brand would have made a difference.
You had to "bow out" of the other thread where you were peddling this incorrect information and now you post it here? It was carefully explained to you by multiple individuals and by several methods that these tests were irrelevant and the "results" meaningless. Did you not understand the technical reasons why they are not?

You also need to stop the nonsense that there are "no tests" that back up opinions rather than PF or Rat, you also keep making that incorrect statement when it has been explained that there are tests that indicate oil quality that have actual statistical and procedural validity. Yet you persist in being unable or unwilling to understand that either. Please stop deceiving people with this error.
 
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There is no best, only API (and other) categories. Your engine manufacturer requires you select from that group.
None of those oil companies ever publish tests showing their oil in that group is superior. So, there are none only traditional marketing for sales and you yourself pay for that marketing in the price of the oil or you can select an oil that does not promote or market like Super Tech.

If one wishes to select an oil in the engine manufacturer required group of oils there is certainly nothing wrong with selecting one from the group of engine manufacturer required oils based on tests from Project Farm or Rat. We all do what makes us happy and if that method makes someone happy and its in the same group then it is just as valid as listening to people in forums recommend oils in the same group.

Personally real tests from Project Farm or Rat carry more weight then opinions with no tests, we ourselves determine if the test is valid enough for us, just as we ourselves determine if ones opinion is valid. I prefer tests and the same tests were used by Consumer reports many years ago, since then consumer reports state the oils are now so close they dont bother anymore.

Now that I have said all that, choose an oil that makes you happy in the category required by the engine maker, change it when required and the engine will outlast the vehicle/ If it doesnt, no oil brand would have made a difference.

Both Project Farm and 540Rat conduct tests which have little relevance to actual performance in internal combustion engines.

If you’re picking an oil on the basis of a specious and perhaps, irrelevant, test, done in a barn, without controls, the kind of silly test in which shampoo beats oil, and that makes you happy, go ahead.

If it makes you happy.

But don’t confuse this amateur "testing" with meeting manufacturer’s specifications, or the rigorous testing done by certifying agencies.

If you choose an oil that meets specs, and also happens to rock the amateur hour fan-base on Youtube or the internet blogs, well, then, you’re fine, too...
 
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