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Intelligent data and reply. Thank you.View attachment 295109
You can use up to 30 grade in your engine. You'll be fine with 0w-20. Dealers don't uoa engines. Grades below 20 have a poorer noack.
Intelligent data and reply. Thank you.View attachment 295109
You can use up to 30 grade in your engine. You'll be fine with 0w-20. Dealers don't uoa engines. Grades below 20 have a poorer noack.
Why didnt you pull up the owners manual then?Intelligent data and reply. Thank you.
These ultra-thin oils are viable only because of very low average oil temps and highly transient duty cycles.
Personally, I'd be using HPL 10w20 in this application. Super low volatility but still thin enough for a highly transient cycle where oil pressure delay is important, it has a super combination of HTHS/KV100 and volatility.
On EDIT: Apparently Toyota has been able to produce match fit bearing clearances in the 10-20 micron range. So we're talking one half to one quarter of one thousandth of an inch. I guess that's what it takes to make the 0w-8 function well in the mains and rods.
The other main design aspects are extremely fine surface finishes-- Superfinish or DLC used many places.
FIFY. We need to keep correcting this until it sticks.Bearingtolerancesclearances,maybe? Anyways, I'm not a machinist (but my son is and I don't have his knowledge) but 20 microns is .0007874 inches.
GM needs to talk to Toyota about how to do a polished surface on a crankshaft. GM owners probably need some counseling about now .These ultra-thin oils are viable only because of very low average oil temps and highly transient duty cycles.
Personally, I'd be using HPL 10w20 in this application. Super low volatility but still thin enough for a highly transient cycle where oil pressure delay is important, it has a super combination of HTHS/KV100 and volatility.
On EDIT: Apparently Toyota has been able to produce match fit bearing clearances in the 10-20 micron range. So we're talking one half to one quarter of one thousandth of an inch. I guess that's what it takes to make the 0w-8 function well in the mains and rods.
The other main design aspects are extremely fine surface finishes-- Superfinish or DLC used many places.
See my threads.Is this true I can’t get a solid answer anywhere. My new car will be in mid September, just doing some research…. Thx in advance.
What’s this new Toyota hybird stuff? Did they finally perfect the flying car while I was busy ignoring BEVs?My signia is a hybird and the engine turns on and off a lot around town like your prius will. I'm sure 0w-16 will be fine if you want to run that.
Designed to permit the use of thinner oils without incurring excessive wear under most circumstances, but not required and sometimes not beneficial.As @TiGeo would say:
" Designed to run thin oil ."
I just followed @TiGeo 's bingo card.Designed to permit the use of thinner oils without incurring excessive wear under most circumstances, but not required and sometimes not beneficial.
Yes you were.I just followed @TiGeo 's bingo card.
It's like joining a fraternity. First you get hazed and abused and if you can take it, you gradually get accepted..
Oh, to be new here again.![]()
FIFY. We need to keep correcting this until it sticks.
Heck I had to correct GROK AI on this and the AI responding with "my bad, you are correct."
Every thickie needs to read those threads. All of them. I'd perhaps tweak the maxim to say "designed to tolerate thin oil."See my threads.
I have been using highest quality 0W8 in the M20A-FXS / M20A-FKS series engines for 250k miles.
As @TiGeo would say:
" Designed to run thin oil ."
It's grok. The corrections last until you close the window. Then it's back to normal error.But did it stick?
It's grok. The corrections last until you close the window. Then it's back to normal error.
Yeah. I don't think I ever said that...Designed to permit the use of thinner oils without incurring excessive wear under most circumstances, but not required and sometimes not beneficial.