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2024 Dodge Charger Revealed
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Consider the first generation Cadillac Escalade was 5,572 lbs. So it weighs more than a suv from a few years ago.
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A comparison to the old showroom stock Chargers.
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Like oil is clean lol.
Didn’t say it was. Just saying EV’s aren’t as clean as advertised and how are those batteries being recycled? lol.
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The batteries are being recycled. What do you mean how?
I guess that depends on the definition of recycling. Tesla isn't ripping batteries apart and breaking them down to base elements in house, but they're reusing cells for their home solar solutions. I guess that's just repurposing though.
If anyone in the USA is sitting on the fence about purchasing a Dodge Charger, be aware that they are assembled in Canada. If tariffs are applied to Canadian assembled cars, it will immediately go up in price until the market has stabilized at a new price point. No need to go political. Just stating a fact to help someone get a better deal. 
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Here is C&D’s take on current USA pricing. Enjoy.
Lots of info in the press release.
• Challenger name is gone, for now.
• EV and Gasoline models. EV comes first.
• 2-door and 4-door models. 2-door comes first.
• AWD standard on all models.
• V8s are gone. Twin Turbo 3.0 I-6 only gasoline option.
• 100.5 kWh Prismatic cell pack
• Production starts mid 2024.
• “The Dodge Charger Daytona R/T is expected to deliver more than 317 miles of range, while the higher performance Charger Daytona Scat Pack provides 260 miles of all-electric range.”
“The next-generation Dodge Charger electrifies a legend. The Charger will retain its title as the world’s quickest and most powerful muscle car, led by the all-new, all-electric 2024 Dodge Charger Daytona Scat Pack, which delivers 670 horsepower and is expected to reach 0-60 mph in 3.3 seconds and to run the quarter-mile in an estimated 11.5 seconds. Electrified models also include the 496-horsepower 2024 Dodge Charger Daytona R/T.
The all-new Dodge Charger features standard all-wheel drive for all models and will offer performance choices via multi-energy powertrain options — the 550-horsepower Dodge Charger SIXPACK H.O. powered by the 3.0L Twin Turbo Hurricane High Output engine and the 420-horsepower Dodge Charger SIXPACK S.O. fueled by the 3.0L Twin Turbo Hurricane Standard Output engine.”
Most powerful versions coming.
https://media.stellantisnorthamerica.com/newsrelease.do?id=25742&mid=1
Disappointingly bland looking in my opinion.. The concept looked better.
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Rumor is the V8 could now make a return
That would be good. Why go through all the trouble of mimicking the original design, especially a two door version, then drop the Hemi and put in a straight six. Chrysler was famous for their slant 6 but not in a performance car.
It's going to be sales proof at those prices, Stellantis really need to get their prices in check.
I agree with your point on the F150 Lightning, but I beg to differ when it comes to this new Dodge Charger. I remember seeing on one of the online Mopar forums, it might have been Mopar insiders or some such. There were photos or spy photos taken of the chassis of this vehicle as it was being developed, and from the beginning, it’s my understanding that FCA/Stillantis always planned from the beginning for this vehicle to be both EV and ICE capable. That should hopefully allow them to maximize both formats which Ford was not able to do as well given the good points you made about the Lightning. (our local Ford dealer has tons of those sitting on the lot and is unable to move them) My work is in sustainability research and the ebb and flow of the transition to EV’s has not been surprising to me at all. Whenever there has been a major technological shift in any product category, there is always a transition with bumps along the way. And I think that transition is going to be at least a little longer than what was originally predicted. The remarkable increase in the sale of hybrid vehicles is one of the illustrations of this. Transitioning from liquid fuels to EV forms of energy in vehicles is a trend that will continue. Efforts such as this where you can have a platform that allows the flexibility for the manufacture to offer both EV’s as well as traditional ICE drivetrains will help the manufacturers as the transition unfolds. Transitions in consumer markets are always impacted by numerous variables. Increasing instability in climate and weather, political legislation, and consumer tastes all tend to evolve, but at different rates. The speed of the transition will be based on variables as well, including how quickly charging networks are built and how people actually drive. For some, owning two hybrid vehicles, for instance, might be an answer. For other households, such as my own, owning one vehicle that is ICE powered while also owning a pure plug-in EV is another “hybrid approach“
And don’t forget that those of us here who love to tinker are in a bit of an echo chamber. The vast majority of my friends and family members can’t even remember to check the air in their tires, and don’t know where the oil dipstick on their ICE vehicles is located. For most people today, motor vehicle vehicles are like appliances. New technology is always expensive when it first appears in the marketplace. If any of you remember when the Blu-ray disc players first appeared, they were insanely expensive. Today, I found one used for $20. As the cost of all of the new investment in EV development is amortized over time, the cost of EV vehicles will stabilize.
For my personal tastes, I have always been more of a fan of torque than of raw horsepower. The torque when driving an EV is astonishing even in EV’s that are not specifically marketed for performance. But, like many of you, I also enjoy tinkering and so will likely keep at least one ICE vehicle for the foreseeable future. But for most of the population, my prediction is that ICE vehicles will not disappear, but will become more of a niche not unlike the way film photography has evolved. Film photography, never disappeared or died, but it shrank considerably. This happens with many technological trend changes in many product categories and vehicles are no different.
Don’t forget the other variable of consumer demand. Younger generations of people rely far less on automobiles for social contact as compared to many of us found who found them indispensable. Change and transitions can be scary, but they’re not always all bad. And technological progress is not standing still either as batteries become less toxic and less expensive to produce. This is not pie in the sky “someday“ stuff, but changes that are happening right now. What might concern all of us no matter what we aspire to drive is how younger generations are going to be able to afford transportation of any kind no matter what the energy source.
This things got lots of problems, or at least this one did.
Not does it throw a bunch of warnings all the time, it seems to have compatibility issues at a range of chargers.
Apparently after watching this vid Dodge bought the unit back from the guy.
Not does it throw a bunch of warnings all the time, it seems to have compatibility issues at a range of chargers.
Apparently after watching this vid Dodge bought the unit back from the guy.
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