I've always prided myself on being fair and if you work you get paid seems fair to me. Right now there's a big push by private equity corporations to buy up dental practices which results in them taking over HR and instituting their own office policies in the name of efficiency. I will never sell to one of these corporations primarily because I like being the boss and not being told what to do but also because I think this can be done fairly without corporate involvement. I could probably make a few more bucks using their policies but I'd rather sleep well at night knowing I'm treating staff fairly.
Wife is getting pooped on at her toxic workplace.
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Severe caution if she decides to stay. That performance evaluation sounds like the beginning of the end and the paper trail to cover a potential suit after the hammer drops. This is not going to improve and count on her mental health suffering over time.
Concur. In my experience, a bad boss combined with a lousy work environment is going to affect your home life and overall quality of life. You need to get her out of there as soon as you can. There is a reason a whole office quit.
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I appreciate it all.
I agree she needs out but quick.
She got contacted internally about a job in another office in OBGYN which is what she used to do prior to the lateral move to Pediatrics. It was an old work colleague from her time in the hospital. They want her there because they know her personally and professionally. She applied, did the formal virtual interview, and is now waiting on an offer response for salary. I personally think she is a shoe in.
Another tidbit, she asked her providers(one she's worked with for 3 years) about what they said she did or didn't do. They all came back saying we never complained about you at all. Her next step is the staff who which again her boss stated everyone said "I don't feel she supports me" I bet that is false too. She contacted employees that left who warned her that her boss is a "toddler who compounds lies and doesn't even remember what she said when called out".
I told her to get HR on board immediately. I hope she takes my advice.
It is quite the toxic place.
I appreciate it all.
I agree she needs out but quick.
She got contacted internally about a job in another office in OBGYN which is what she used to do prior to the lateral move to Pediatrics. It was an old work colleague from her time in the hospital. They want her there because they know her personally and professionally. She applied, did the formal virtual interview, and is now waiting on an offer response for salary. I personally think she is a shoe in.
Another tidbit, she asked her providers(one she's worked with for 3 years) about what they said she did or didn't do. They all came back saying we never complained about you at all. Her next step is the staff who which again her boss stated everyone said "I don't feel she supports me" I bet that is false too. She contacted employees that left who warned her that her boss is a "toddler who compounds lies and doesn't even remember what she said when called out".
I told her to get HR on board immediately. I hope she takes my advice.
It is quite the toxic place.
Not necessarily.... In the old days, HR was around to help the employees and the company. Today, in too many companies, HR's primary task is to protect the employer. The employees are just a necessary evil to them.
Its best she leave this toxic dump and find something better.
Nurses are ALWAYS in demand and can find work very easily.
Lots of places do NOT respect nurses and chew them up like a piece of bubble gum….
Some healthcare systems are worse than a Walmart Supercenter, I’m not kidding.
Nurses are ALWAYS in demand and can find work very easily.
Lots of places do NOT respect nurses and chew them up like a piece of bubble gum….
Some healthcare systems are worse than a Walmart Supercenter, I’m not kidding.
I feel badly for nurses today. My wife is an RN who started in the 80's. The nurses were valued and well taken care of. Today nurses suffer badly under long hours and unrealistic demands. In the end my wife was working 12-1/2 to 13 hours a shift. It affected her health and well being at the time. There were many days that she worked harder than my guys in plumbing and that is not an exxageration. We have a nursing shortage because thousand have left the hospitals from burnout. The health care system is slowly imploding in this country. Unless nursing is recognized as the health care backbone and valued for what it is we are in long term trouble here.
My hat is off to all the nurses that work so hard and give so much. Thank you for your sacrifice.
My hat is off to all the nurses that work so hard and give so much. Thank you for your sacrifice.
A licensed nurse with 17 years of clinical experience can quit a current nursing job today and be working somewhere else first thing tomorrow morning anywhere in the country. There isn't any reason why she has to put-up with this kind of nonsense. If she doesn't want to go to work anywhere else she can work for herself, and work when she wants to work, for likely 2X the money.
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Unfortunately MBAs with degrees in healthcare management are running the show, zero idea of patient care yet they set unrealistic metrics.
Trust me on this, nurses have soooooo many corporate (for profit and non for profit) metrics they are judged on. Metrics….. metrics…. metrics…..
I‘m on a daily huddle with some hospitals and this is what the top leadership talks about.
Problem is, without metrics, it is tough to objectively hold folks accountable.
I don't know if that is entirely true - it really depends on your specialty, whether its inpatient or outpatient and a slew of other factors. It can definitely take time.
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I don't know the situation in CA, but here in Central Texas every hospital, emergency clinic (that have turned-up on seemingly every corner in the last few years), healthcare clinic, surgery clinic, nursing home, and doctor's office is looking for experienced licensed clinical nurses. The turnover rate has been astronomical in the last 3 years.
I’ve asked many nurses with 20-25 years of experience if there was a Time Machine and they could go back in time would they still choose nursing as a career.
90% of the nurses said NO without any hesitation or thinking about it.
Nursing is very difficult and will not be getting any easier in the future
More new metrics = More charting on computer = Less time with patient.
MBA-fication (non clinical staff) of healthcare has very bad consequences….
Why ?
Because hospital CEO and COO with zero knowledge of clinical care of patients, problems, staffing issues, morale, dealing with patient’s family, etc… can NOT relate to or even have a meaningful conversation with clinical staff.
CEO and COO go from the parking garage to their office…… then at the end of the day go from their office to parking garage and drive home.
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HCAHPS scores are very important to any hospital.
90% of the nurses said NO without any hesitation or thinking about it.
Nursing is very difficult and will not be getting any easier in the future
More new metrics = More charting on computer = Less time with patient.
MBA-fication (non clinical staff) of healthcare has very bad consequences….
Why ?
Because hospital CEO and COO with zero knowledge of clinical care of patients, problems, staffing issues, morale, dealing with patient’s family, etc… can NOT relate to or even have a meaningful conversation with clinical staff.
CEO and COO go from the parking garage to their office…… then at the end of the day go from their office to parking garage and drive home.
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I'm with a lot of others here.
RN positions are growing on trees while the supply of RNs is withering on the vine.
She should leave now before these cretins can further sully her reputation.
She should not need to deal with constant denigration from some business school educated moron.
Keep in mind as well that this toxic boss is probably under intense pressure to deliver certain metrics and HR is expected to aid in this quest.
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It's a broad brush - yes, the supply is low and the demand is high, but facilities will want a person experienced in the specialty being sought. For instance, an outpatient peds RN is not going to be a top candidate for an ICU or PCU position. A med/surg RN is unlikely to be a top choice for a labor/delivery unit, either.
Also, like many fields, once you make certain changes (e.g. moving from inpatient to out) it can really limit your future career options.
Interesting piece on the news the other night about nurses who hire on at corporate owned hospitals. They sign the contract but find out if they leave, the are billed for so called " training" which in the old days was basically your orientation. The hospital claims that theirs is so priceless, nurses need to reimburse them, some nurse paid 10 to 20k to leave. Not the hire on bonus, which is a fair claw back but the orientation training, usually by a junior employee.
HCA is well known for this and their Star RN program (StaRN).
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OP’s wife needs to quit her trash job ASAP !!!!
Not worth the stress, drama, aggravation and unhappiness in this toxic sewer pit.
Its definitely taking a toll on her mental health, Im not kidding.
“ They had a meeting today about her performance where she was not allowed to speak or in anyway defend herself because again it was just an excuse. “
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Run away as fast as possible, don’t look back. Better yet don’t even show up to work anymore.
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This should be made illegal.
With this knowledge now available I would think that they are having a very difficult time hiring right now.
Where I live there is a bidding war going on for experienced clinical nurses (they are even fighting over new graduates). Why wouldn't this type of person take another job if they are getting a $40-$50k pay raise, especially if they are being screwed over by their current employer?
There is a huge need for nurses. She can go anywhere she wants and get a $10,000 -$20,000 pay increase. If she is not happy… leave. Go do something else.
My sister in law is a phone nurse for an insurance company. She works from home, answering questions, and looking over insurance cases. She works whatever hours she wants and makes $100,000 a year. She loves it.
My sister in law is a phone nurse for an insurance company. She works from home, answering questions, and looking over insurance cases. She works whatever hours she wants and makes $100,000 a year. She loves it.
