It’s best not to take the bait. I know I’ve been played like a second hand guitar a few times…
Why is using HPL for short drain intervals a waste?
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Triple_Se7en
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Sometimes people with a boatload of money haven't amounted to anything in life.
Sometimes the best people on this earth are of-the poor.
If you are a good person - one that (at least) tries to abide by the 10 Rules Of Life - one that would give the shirt off your back to help someone in dire need, then she (the teacher) labeled you incorrectly.
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You have to take offense. It can’t be given to you, no matter what is said.
Impossible to offend, I’ll agree then add that I’ve been called worse things from better people.
Thanks for the plug, but I stopped trying to save people 20 years ago.
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Nope, I’m on record plenty of times saying you’re free to use whatever oil, gear lube, PSF or trans fluid you want, even if it’s a completely wrong oil for an application. I’ve even defended oils that I wouldn’t even use personally when there’s data available to disprove spurious attacks.
Just post carnage pics is all we ask.
It was ridiculous.
I’m not offended. Been called worse things by better people.
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And misspelled altar.
It takes two to bicker. And this statement of yours was certainly not “just reponding (sic)”.
You took a swipe at all sorts of people with that statement. You could have responded in an unemotional, factual manner, but you chose to make it personal, and inflammatory, so, now you're getting some heat from the very fire that you lit.
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So it seems like the consensus is that HPL is overpriced Kool-Aid, maybe I’m just too poor to be worthy of its greatness
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Overpriced kool-aid... You mean fine wine?
In all seriousness, it's like saying a Michelin star restaurant is overpriced kool-aid as if the high school dropout with 2 days of training on searing a steak at Applebee's is equal to Gordon Ramsey.
In all seriousness, it's like saying a Michelin star restaurant is overpriced kool-aid as if the high school dropout with 2 days of training on searing a steak at Applebee's is equal to Gordon Ramsey.
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That’s not the consensus here at all
Not at all, there are situations and definitely some engines that can benefit from it. On the other side of that coin I think someone like myself would not see much benefit over a full synthetic from from Mobil, Castrol, etc. My cars see little use with 3K or less miles a year and get a yearly oil change if it needs it or not. My old Viggen did 1400 miles this year and it is away til next spring, my brothers wife may benefit greatly from using it, she drives a lot of miles and maintenance is not big on her list of important things.
Generally speaking, the more meaningful and productive your contribution to society is, the less you are getting paid.
People who slaughter our food, cook our food, dispose of garbage, teach our kids, clean, build our houses etc. are paid very little, while some jagoff with an MBA sitting in an office or "working from home" is getting paid a lot.
That is not the consensus at all. And the overpriced statement is bogus, if you used correctly it is not expensive. For participating in an oil forum where the assumption can be made that you want the best for your vehicles, constantly bickering over a few dollars for oil really gets old here.
This is a dark rabbit hole. How do you determine who has more meaningful and productive contribution to society? Is it the butcher who cuts the meat, the chef who cooks the meat, or the people who inspect and enforce regulations that ensure the meat is safe for consumption? Is it the teacher or the person who analyzes societal, political, economical, and industrial trends to establish the curriculums our teachers use to educate and prepare future generations? Is it the contractor who built the house or the surveyor/inspector who did thorough ground analysis to determine the land was safe to build on? Is it the airplane mechanic or the pilot? Is it the soldier on the frontline or the intel analyst giving that soldier the information he needs to conduct his mission?
Your line of thinking is an ideological composition fallacy that flirts with ad hominem and red herrings. Tread carefully going down this path as it will disorientate you.
FYI... I'm not sure about where you live but in my state (South Carolina), the trashman makes more than the state average income. I don't know exactly how much our local butcher makes, but I know it's enough to afford his 4k sqft house on 20 acres, a new RV, a nice boat, and 2 week long vacations abroad each year. Teachers are underpaid, that I'll agree with, though not because they're teachers. I wouldn't want to put up with 20 of other people's kids every day for their pay either.
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I'll try and get this a little back on track.. I think a better way to judge it is like this:
How much longer would you need to run HPL in comparison to the lowest-priced basal oil (that's base spec for the vehicle) to breakeven?
And you can do this based on any OCI to benchmark wear and fouling (usually varnish is the weak point.)
Most of the time people only need it to run two or three times as long for breakeven.
If it was to clean on a short interval, then it definitely wins because the value oil is made to package spec, and no package has it in it's design scope to remove varnish.
There may be plenty of people who aren't big into HPL, but are just disappointed in the lack of cleaning capabilities with what's offered off the shelf.
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Very well said.
In addition, financial compensation is heavily correlated with how hard it is to do a task and how many workers there are available to do that job.
Not to pick on framers, but anyone can build a wall from 2x4's with some basic training in less than a day. Anyone can stand behind the cash register at mcdonalds. But not everyone can engineer the house to incredible high standards and luxury and be willing to be personally liable for his/her work.
Supply and demand, when your skills are required but rare, your financial compensation goes up.
I do agree that MBA's can be a problem in some cases. Some companys are management heavy and it shows.
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