That costs money and rest assured, the corporation isn't eating that cost. "Popular" brands have an artificial cost to the consumer and part of that has to cover their marketing costs.
From what I read the Ag, mining and construction world is their big markets.
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The price and lack of availability on my local shelves.
Only love "things" that can love you back?
I used to work for a ma'am.That did touring buses and we had drums of Schaeffers 15w40. They've been around a long time and are mostly noticed in the midwest especially in missouri.Schaeffer Oil has never been out of love. Unless you have been living in a cave for the past 22 years many members have used it and reported various results with it. Do a search on Schaeffer's or go to their web site at:
Synthetic Motor Oils, Engine Oils, Diesel Fuel Additives, Industrial Lubricants Manufacturer | Schaeffer Oil
The official website of Schaeffer's Specialized Lubricants, manufacturer of Schaeffer's Oil, industrial lubricants, synthetic engine oils, fuel additives, greases, gear lubes, hydraulic fluids, and transmission fluids.www.schaefferoil.com
They have quite a history in the lubrication industry.
When you travel to St. Louis, stop at the factory and take a tour! Right near the Arch.
I walked around with the founder’s grandson or great grandson (don’t remember).
He was in his eighties and rode around on a Cushman scooter. Sharp as a tack, told me about the history of the company, current markets, products in the pipeline, company’s vision etc.
I bought a case of 15w40 and my diesel loved it.
I walked around with the founder’s grandson or great grandson (don’t remember).
He was in his eighties and rode around on a Cushman scooter. Sharp as a tack, told me about the history of the company, current markets, products in the pipeline, company’s vision etc.
I bought a case of 15w40 and my diesel loved it.
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I remember this from the day. This video is 11 years old...Ford and Schaeffers oil engine teardown...
My reason Schaeffer’s does get much love I've never seen it on sale with a rebate!
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For me they make some pretty good products. We used them a lot in the two speed shops I worked at. However, the salesman that came to the shop wasn't exactly knowledgeable when it comes to oils. I asked them why they don't use any esters in their base oils (We used almost exclusively Schaeffer's and Redline, which are obviously quite different in composition), and he went on and on about how esters are inferior old tech and that PAO is objectively superior, which I feel is quite misleading given the chemical variability of polyol ester base stocks. Ad pack solubility and compatibility would have been much better arguments, but he didn't seem to know about those, I've since learned much more about the PAO vs ester debate from the internet hah. Anyway it put a bad taste in my mouth. I wouldn't hesitate to use it in my engines if it was what was most available though.
My brother used Schaeffer's exclusively for over 3 decades in all his vehicles. He ended up spinning a bearing in one vehicle and hasn't used it since. He buys whatever is cheapest off the Walmart shelf nowadays. I told him even the best oil won't prevent inherent mechanical issues, but he doesn't care. He doesn't bad mouth it, just doesn't support or spread the gospel like in the past.
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You have to realize that independent blender companies may market to specific segments of industry.
Schaeffer's Oil and similar companies may bulk market to farming (agriculture), construction, oil drilling, mining, and other industries.
Because of that market coverage, their portfolio has to include engine oils, hydraulic oils, greases, and supplementary chemicals.
Simply because they are not on Wally's shelves or Advanced Auto shelves, it doesn't mean their products cannot perform as advertised.
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Does he ever say what he was doing when he spun a bearing?! Was he racing or just "cruising"
Their UOA's are no better than other oils. Hard for me to justify the higher cost of some oils when SuperTech syn is available at a much cheaper price
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..... or free shipping with x-amount spent.
IIRC it was in a car called a Sterling. Rover car with Honda drivetrain. It was extremely high mileage when he bought it, no maintenance history. He went ahead and serviced everything and the failure happened soon after. I suspect the problem was going to happen either way.
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It doesn’t get “any love”, I agree. I went back five pages of 30 threads per page and didn’t see a single Schaffer’s thread aside from this one. The pages were dominated by HPL, Pennzoil, Mobil1 and Valvoline. Amsoil didn’t have a lot of coverage either (maybe a thread or two). Five pages…150 threads. Nothing.
I blame Schaffers for that…their prices, availability and advertising. And I doubt they care, whatever they’re doing seems to be working, they’re still in business. I would say they have some “high end” oils landing in the boutique category, but when you don’t advertise, don’t have any sort of media campaigns, sales, rebates, bottle changes, local coverage of the product is shelves…you’re not going to get any love. Perhaps some day they’ll care enough to get some love, right now it appears they don’t need it (but that could change).
I blame Schaffers for that…their prices, availability and advertising. And I doubt they care, whatever they’re doing seems to be working, they’re still in business. I would say they have some “high end” oils landing in the boutique category, but when you don’t advertise, don’t have any sort of media campaigns, sales, rebates, bottle changes, local coverage of the product is shelves…you’re not going to get any love. Perhaps some day they’ll care enough to get some love, right now it appears they don’t need it (but that could change).
I think their commercial market keeps them going as some have stated.
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