On the bully subject, some parents teach their children to bully. This is how you get your way in life. They are probably bullies themselves.
Why do kids bully?
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It says something that a thread about kids bullying went off topic into cops bullying. Why do so many people seem to have the preception that they do?
I notice one of the more arrogant members here is defending the cops.
I notice one of the more arrogant members here is defending the cops.
Originally Posted By: labman
It says something that a thread about kids bullying went off topic into cops bullying. Why do so many people seem to have the preception that they do?
I notice one of the more arrogant members here is defending the cops.
Who might that be?
It says something that a thread about kids bullying went off topic into cops bullying. Why do so many people seem to have the preception that they do?
I notice one of the more arrogant members here is defending the cops.
Who might that be?
Good to know you don't think I'm one of the more arrogant members.
If I were his parents, I would have notified the school of the issue, filed a lawsuit against his parents, paid a hitman to take out their whole entire gene pool and prevent them from being laid to rest.
Kids do stupid things but they need to be put in place when an issue like this occurs. They need to know fear and consequence.
Kids do stupid things but they need to be put in place when an issue like this occurs. They need to know fear and consequence.
I dont get it MarkC. I eat fired chicken all the time. Well now only at work because my wife put me ona diet. Im wary of sausages because i dont care for mystery meat stuffed into intesstines.
Originally Posted By: MarkC
White guys don't eat fried chicken, of course.
Certain ones like sausage, I hear.
Originally Posted By: MarkC
White guys don't eat fried chicken, of course.
Certain ones like sausage, I hear.
Originally Posted By: Oilpants
I dont get it MarkC. I eat fired chicken all the time. Well now only at work because my wife put me ona diet. Im wary of sausages because i dont care for mystery meat stuffed into intesstines.
Originally Posted By: MarkC
White guys don't eat fried chicken, of course.
Certain ones like sausage, I hear.
I honestly don't get you two. Not sure if it's friends poking at one another or one bullying the other around.
I dont get it MarkC. I eat fired chicken all the time. Well now only at work because my wife put me ona diet. Im wary of sausages because i dont care for mystery meat stuffed into intesstines.
Originally Posted By: MarkC
White guys don't eat fried chicken, of course.
Certain ones like sausage, I hear.
I honestly don't get you two. Not sure if it's friends poking at one another or one bullying the other around.
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It does come down to the parent. Fathers are often pushing superiority out of their children (usually sons) to protect them and prepare them for likely encounters throughout life. You don't want your kids to be taken advantage of or "bullied" in any environment. The lesson that isn't taught, usually, is tolerance and temperance. You need to inspire the courage and confidence to NOT use one's abilities in a corrupt or punitive manner.
Some children's self esteem can stand on its own. Some children's self esteem is maintained with defining who is lesser than they are. You'll see this in some work environments where the guy who considers himself #1 will sabotage anyone who they see challenging their assumed position.
My son took Tae-Kwon-Do for 5 years when younger. He's now more powerful than I ever was in my best condition (although he's packing some really unnecessary weight). He has never used that to physically intimidate anyone as a teenager or adult. He watched me display my interpretation of "just world" and saw the merit of it.
If he had watched me live a life of hitting below the belt ..talking one talk and walking another walk, it may have turned out differently. I wanted to produce good citizens. That is not to be interpreted as "wimp".
Some children's self esteem can stand on its own. Some children's self esteem is maintained with defining who is lesser than they are. You'll see this in some work environments where the guy who considers himself #1 will sabotage anyone who they see challenging their assumed position.
My son took Tae-Kwon-Do for 5 years when younger. He's now more powerful than I ever was in my best condition (although he's packing some really unnecessary weight). He has never used that to physically intimidate anyone as a teenager or adult. He watched me display my interpretation of "just world" and saw the merit of it.
If he had watched me live a life of hitting below the belt ..talking one talk and walking another walk, it may have turned out differently. I wanted to produce good citizens. That is not to be interpreted as "wimp".
I think that's great, Gary. Get the children the necessary training to defend and protect themselves so they don't have to go around "intimidating" others and running their mouth. Those are the ones I watch out for, the quiet but confident ones. Like I said before, once I got training I started backing down to fights due to more confidence.
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Originally Posted By: greenaccord02
Good to know you don't think I'm one of the more arrogant members.
I've got nothing against you. I remember we had a big disagreement but seriously can't remember what it was about.
Actually, I was talking to Labman there. Nothing against you either.
Originally Posted By: greenaccord02
Good to know you don't think I'm one of the more arrogant members.
I've got nothing against you. I remember we had a big disagreement but seriously can't remember what it was about.
Actually, I was talking to Labman there. Nothing against you either.
I've been training in kenpo and kempo, of one type or another, since 1980, and while I rarely back down from a physical thing, I also rarely get bothered. I think the way you carry yourself and act around people affects whether on not people tend to bother you. Not always true, of course, and of course, hopefully you don't have unrealistic ideas about yourself and your abilities.
As for oilpnats, he doesn't recognize irony, or if he does, he's doing a good job of hiding it.
As for oilpnats, he doesn't recognize irony, or if he does, he's doing a good job of hiding it.
Originally Posted By: MarkC
I've been training in kenpo and kempo, of one type or another, since 1980, and while I rarely back down from a physical thing, I also rarely get bothered. I think the way you carry yourself and act around people affects whether on not people tend to bother you. Not always true, of course, and of course, hopefully you don't have unrealistic ideas about yourself and your abilities.
As for oilpnats, he doesn't recognize irony, or if he does, he's doing a good job of hiding it.
Well, at the age of 32 and living in a redneck town, if I didn't look the other way, I would be fighting every other weekend. Just too many people out there looking for trouble and though I'm pretty big, I'm always nice and smiling. In other words for the little guy trying to prove something, I'm their favorite target. No unrealistic goals here but I'm sure you're fully aware of what it's like with an average person with some training vs a bar room bully. I guess I just don't care anymore. Maybe it's maturity, confidence or flat out laziness.
I've been training in kenpo and kempo, of one type or another, since 1980, and while I rarely back down from a physical thing, I also rarely get bothered. I think the way you carry yourself and act around people affects whether on not people tend to bother you. Not always true, of course, and of course, hopefully you don't have unrealistic ideas about yourself and your abilities.
As for oilpnats, he doesn't recognize irony, or if he does, he's doing a good job of hiding it.
Well, at the age of 32 and living in a redneck town, if I didn't look the other way, I would be fighting every other weekend. Just too many people out there looking for trouble and though I'm pretty big, I'm always nice and smiling. In other words for the little guy trying to prove something, I'm their favorite target. No unrealistic goals here but I'm sure you're fully aware of what it's like with an average person with some training vs a bar room bully. I guess I just don't care anymore. Maybe it's maturity, confidence or flat out laziness.
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Originally Posted By: Oilpants
I dont get it MarkC. I eat fired chicken all the time. Well now only at work because my wife put me ona diet. Im wary of sausages because i dont care for mystery meat stuffed into intesstines.
Originally Posted By: MarkC
White guys don't eat fried chicken, of course.
Certain ones like sausage, I hear.
He's not talking about that kind of sausage..... Think Rainbows.
I dont get it MarkC. I eat fired chicken all the time. Well now only at work because my wife put me ona diet. Im wary of sausages because i dont care for mystery meat stuffed into intesstines.
Originally Posted By: MarkC
White guys don't eat fried chicken, of course.
Certain ones like sausage, I hear.
He's not talking about that kind of sausage..... Think Rainbows.
I went through a bully phase around age 9 to 11. I'm sure poor parenting (father's side) was a contributing factor, but it just seemed like the thing to do within my group of friends, and I don't think I started it because my first memory of any peer conflict was of them picking on a new kid that I was hanging out with. I don't think I ever picked on that kid, but I joined my group of friends and stopped associating with him, even though I enjoyed his company. I would have been 8 at that time, so I was on auto-pilot and don't remember forming any strong opinions on anything at that time or during the phase that followed. There were a number of kids that received abusive treatment from us. I don't know why I not only went along but often led it; I had no reason and I was never really even very fond of most of my friends at the time. I didn't do any bullying beyond the age of 11 and that particular group of friends.
Originally Posted By: BuickGN
Originally Posted By: MarkC
I've been training in kenpo and kempo, of one type or another, since 1980, and while I rarely back down from a physical thing, I also rarely get bothered. I think the way you carry yourself and act around people affects whether on not people tend to bother you. Not always true, of course, and of course, hopefully you don't have unrealistic ideas about yourself and your abilities.
As for oilpnats, he doesn't recognize irony, or if he does, he's doing a good job of hiding it.
Well, at the age of 32 and living in a redneck town, if I didn't look the other way, I would be fighting every other weekend. Just too many people out there looking for trouble and though I'm pretty big, I'm always nice and smiling. In other words for the little guy trying to prove something, I'm their favorite target. No unrealistic goals here but I'm sure you're fully aware of what it's like with an average person with some training vs a bar room bully. I guess I just don't care anymore. Maybe it's maturity, confidence or flat out laziness.
It doesn't pay to worry about every chihuahua that barks, that's for sure.
Originally Posted By: MarkC
I've been training in kenpo and kempo, of one type or another, since 1980, and while I rarely back down from a physical thing, I also rarely get bothered. I think the way you carry yourself and act around people affects whether on not people tend to bother you. Not always true, of course, and of course, hopefully you don't have unrealistic ideas about yourself and your abilities.
As for oilpnats, he doesn't recognize irony, or if he does, he's doing a good job of hiding it.
Well, at the age of 32 and living in a redneck town, if I didn't look the other way, I would be fighting every other weekend. Just too many people out there looking for trouble and though I'm pretty big, I'm always nice and smiling. In other words for the little guy trying to prove something, I'm their favorite target. No unrealistic goals here but I'm sure you're fully aware of what it's like with an average person with some training vs a bar room bully. I guess I just don't care anymore. Maybe it's maturity, confidence or flat out laziness.
It doesn't pay to worry about every chihuahua that barks, that's for sure.
I let this go on for a while to kind of see where it was heading. Kind of disappointed in the views and opinions expressed. As a former Police Officer and State Trooper, I take great offense to a lot of the generalizations made by some of you. As with any and ALL professions, there are bad apples. However, there are MANY, MANY, more good officers. You rarely hear the good stories because those aren't news. IMHO, the Media feeds the Nations desire for brutality and ghoulish news.
How many of you would put your lives on the line for $30k a year? I started at $16.8k and went to $18.5k after training. Started around $27k with Patrol. WHY do you get bad apples? Hmmm... pay low, get low. I got into it for the PURE intent to HELP people. No power trip. I wanted to make a difference. I got out because of the politics and I was growing tired of seeing the insides of people on the outside.
PLEASE, enough with the cop bashing.
Now, the update (and true purpose of this thread) on my neighbor's son:
He came home yesterday. They actually also suspected a neck fracture due to posturing but scans were negative. He could also be experiencing "stare" seizures. His pain is still there but is gradually lessening. They have retained a lawyer and are pursuing legal action. As to what extent and against whom, I do not know.
How many of you would put your lives on the line for $30k a year? I started at $16.8k and went to $18.5k after training. Started around $27k with Patrol. WHY do you get bad apples? Hmmm... pay low, get low. I got into it for the PURE intent to HELP people. No power trip. I wanted to make a difference. I got out because of the politics and I was growing tired of seeing the insides of people on the outside.
PLEASE, enough with the cop bashing.
Now, the update (and true purpose of this thread) on my neighbor's son:
He came home yesterday. They actually also suspected a neck fracture due to posturing but scans were negative. He could also be experiencing "stare" seizures. His pain is still there but is gradually lessening. They have retained a lawyer and are pursuing legal action. As to what extent and against whom, I do not know.
My claims don't come from the media and I'm not making generalizations. I'm stating my experiences. I've had dealings with two officers that I would call nice guys. That doesn't mean they didn't give me a ticket; both did. I was in the wrong, and fair's fair. But - they were courteous about it and I could tell they were genuinely out to do right by the people they worked with and for.
But every other one has been an obviously poorly adjusted individual. Now, also I've known a few former HPD guys who were good guys that got into it for just a couple years and saw just how corrupt and morally deficient their co-workers were and left to find another career. They tell some stories that would make your skin crawl.
So, if I'd only known two bad cops and the rest were good then I'd be out of line with my statements. However, my experience as well as the experience of a lot of other posters across the world here show the opposite. Don't be disappointed in the people here who are sick and tired of being treated like dirt by overgrown bullies with guns - be disappointed in the people who made your profession be seen the way it is, your fellow officers. Blaming the media is the easy way out. Look to the core of the issue.
That's good to hear your neighbor is doing better.
But every other one has been an obviously poorly adjusted individual. Now, also I've known a few former HPD guys who were good guys that got into it for just a couple years and saw just how corrupt and morally deficient their co-workers were and left to find another career. They tell some stories that would make your skin crawl.
So, if I'd only known two bad cops and the rest were good then I'd be out of line with my statements. However, my experience as well as the experience of a lot of other posters across the world here show the opposite. Don't be disappointed in the people here who are sick and tired of being treated like dirt by overgrown bullies with guns - be disappointed in the people who made your profession be seen the way it is, your fellow officers. Blaming the media is the easy way out. Look to the core of the issue.
That's good to hear your neighbor is doing better.
Originally Posted By: wantin150
I let this go on for a while to kind of see where it was heading. Kind of disappointed in the views and opinions expressed. As a former Police Officer and State Trooper, I take great offense to a lot of the generalizations made by some of you. As with any and ALL professions, there are bad apples. However, there are MANY, MANY, more good officers. You rarely hear the good stories because those aren't news. IMHO, the Media feeds the Nations desire for brutality and ghoulish news.
How many of you would put your lives on the line for $30k a year? I started at $16.8k and went to $18.5k after training. Started around $27k with Patrol. WHY do you get bad apples? Hmmm... pay low, get low. I got into it for the PURE intent to HELP people. No power trip. I wanted to make a difference. I got out because of the politics and I was growing tired of seeing the insides of people on the outside.
PLEASE, enough with the cop bashing.
Now, the update (and true purpose of this thread) on my neighbor's son:
He came home yesterday. They actually also suspected a neck fracture due to posturing but scans were negative. He could also be experiencing "stare" seizures. His pain is still there but is gradually lessening. They have retained a lawyer and are pursuing legal action. As to what extent and against whom, I do not know.
I thank you for your service.
I hope your neighbor recovers completely. That's one of the many reasons I've never picked on or started a fight. You just never know when something like that can happen.
I let this go on for a while to kind of see where it was heading. Kind of disappointed in the views and opinions expressed. As a former Police Officer and State Trooper, I take great offense to a lot of the generalizations made by some of you. As with any and ALL professions, there are bad apples. However, there are MANY, MANY, more good officers. You rarely hear the good stories because those aren't news. IMHO, the Media feeds the Nations desire for brutality and ghoulish news.
How many of you would put your lives on the line for $30k a year? I started at $16.8k and went to $18.5k after training. Started around $27k with Patrol. WHY do you get bad apples? Hmmm... pay low, get low. I got into it for the PURE intent to HELP people. No power trip. I wanted to make a difference. I got out because of the politics and I was growing tired of seeing the insides of people on the outside.
PLEASE, enough with the cop bashing.
Now, the update (and true purpose of this thread) on my neighbor's son:
He came home yesterday. They actually also suspected a neck fracture due to posturing but scans were negative. He could also be experiencing "stare" seizures. His pain is still there but is gradually lessening. They have retained a lawyer and are pursuing legal action. As to what extent and against whom, I do not know.
I thank you for your service.
I hope your neighbor recovers completely. That's one of the many reasons I've never picked on or started a fight. You just never know when something like that can happen.
Originally Posted By: wantin150
I let this go on for a while to kind of see where it was heading. Kind of disappointed in the views and opinions expressed. As a former Police Officer and State Trooper, I take great offense to a lot of the generalizations made by some of you. As with any and ALL professions, there are bad apples. However, there are MANY, MANY, more good officers. You rarely hear the good stories because those aren't news. IMHO, the Media feeds the Nations desire for brutality and ghoulish news.
How many of you would put your lives on the line for $30k a year? I started at $16.8k and went to $18.5k after training. Started around $27k with Patrol. WHY do you get bad apples? Hmmm... pay low, get low. I got into it for the PURE intent to HELP people. No power trip. I wanted to make a difference. I got out because of the politics and I was growing tired of seeing the insides of people on the outside.
PLEASE, enough with the cop bashing.
Now, the update (and true purpose of this thread) on my neighbor's son:
He came home yesterday. They actually also suspected a neck fracture due to posturing but scans were negative. He could also be experiencing "stare" seizures. His pain is still there but is gradually lessening. They have retained a lawyer and are pursuing legal action. As to what extent and against whom, I do not know.
Great post! Despite some back-peddle comments, it's obvious that this thread DID turn into a cop bashing feast. I tried to express the stupidity of such statements as 'all cops are bullies'....but was quickly confronted by more negativity. The ignorance of some folks regarding peace officers is beyond me.
Anyway, thank you for posting the truth and reality of the fact that most police are great people and well balanced.
I let this go on for a while to kind of see where it was heading. Kind of disappointed in the views and opinions expressed. As a former Police Officer and State Trooper, I take great offense to a lot of the generalizations made by some of you. As with any and ALL professions, there are bad apples. However, there are MANY, MANY, more good officers. You rarely hear the good stories because those aren't news. IMHO, the Media feeds the Nations desire for brutality and ghoulish news.
How many of you would put your lives on the line for $30k a year? I started at $16.8k and went to $18.5k after training. Started around $27k with Patrol. WHY do you get bad apples? Hmmm... pay low, get low. I got into it for the PURE intent to HELP people. No power trip. I wanted to make a difference. I got out because of the politics and I was growing tired of seeing the insides of people on the outside.
PLEASE, enough with the cop bashing.
Now, the update (and true purpose of this thread) on my neighbor's son:
He came home yesterday. They actually also suspected a neck fracture due to posturing but scans were negative. He could also be experiencing "stare" seizures. His pain is still there but is gradually lessening. They have retained a lawyer and are pursuing legal action. As to what extent and against whom, I do not know.
Great post! Despite some back-peddle comments, it's obvious that this thread DID turn into a cop bashing feast. I tried to express the stupidity of such statements as 'all cops are bullies'....but was quickly confronted by more negativity. The ignorance of some folks regarding peace officers is beyond me.
Anyway, thank you for posting the truth and reality of the fact that most police are great people and well balanced.
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