Why do kids bully?

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Some close friends of ours have 2 sons. One is about 12 or 13 and is in the 8th grade. He is a little heavy and doesn't have the deepest voice. He is an absolutely OUTSTANDING trumpet player and consistently plays one or two grade levels up.

On Thursday, he was hit in the head by two kids. They hit him with textbooks. Not "hard" as he later said but enough to get his attention. That night, he took a shower. After the shower, he complained that his head hurt. His parents took him to Urgent Care (HUGE mistake) and they checked him out. Lots of things went wrong and they ended up sending him home. She scheduled an appt with his Dr.

Friday, he is in severe pain. She takes him to the ER and they do a CAT scan. Guess what they find? Yep, bleeding on his brain. They admit him to the ICU and begin treatment. The injury was the same type which killed the lady from "Parent Trap" when she failed to seek medical attention after a fall from a horse. He got lucky as the bleeding "stopped". He's still in the hospital and will likely be out of school for a month or more.

This child could have died! Heck, he still may if another vein bursts. I mean, what gives people the right to think that it is OK to pick on other people? Please keep this young man in your thoughts and prayers. He "insulted" me tonight when I went to see him so I know that he has his sense of humor and is taking things well despite the pain he is in. Pain meds interfere with the neuro scans so they cant give him much which forces him to just have to deal with it.
 
What`s gonna happen is that guy is going to run into those two years later and he`ll be all muscled up and he`s going to kick the living s**t out of them. Life has a way of repaying people like that.
 
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Originally Posted By: wantin150
Good info. Looks like they will be going that way.


Based on your description, they have a strong case. IMHO they should shop it around to get the best representation, and negotiate so that the lawyers cut is reasonable in light of the strength of the case (e.g that the lawyers fee's are separately recovered and do not come too ).

Who knows, maybe the health insurance company will seek subrogation and decide to get involved to recover its costs
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At this point it may be helpful to file a criminal complaint for assault and battery. This will certainly lead to drama at bully's house(s) when the police show up to take statements. This also sets up a chain of documentation for any future action, to say nothing of being useful in a civil case.

Also I would leave the school system out of it, since while they have a responsibilty to assure a safe school enviroment, suing them will waste public money and divert it away from educating the students.

(Of course I'm not a lawyer, and any legal advice should be given from a professional. Legal advice on BITOG is worth exactly what you paid for it. etc)
 
If that happened down here, the parents would sue the school district the very next day after learning of his injury.

I hope the kid is feeling better.
 
Hope he gets better quickly! That's a very serious injury, he needs to be checked out for any motor, sensory and cognitive deficits. Once he's awake, that is.

The worst part of this is that this kid's potential was downgraded several notches by that closed-head injury, and he won't know how much he's missing until a couple of years have gone by. At that point he'll have to learn new knowledge instead of using what he's already learned. Keep that in mind as he recovers and seems fine.

Agreed with others, the parents need to get the authorities involved.
 
To sort of answer your title question, bullies figure out that they can get their way by making others fear them. One of the ways they do this is by victimizing peers that would most likely not fight back. They may also be exhibiting signs of anti-social behavior and even sociopathy that will show up towards adulthood. There are also bullies who are victims themselves, but since they can't retaliate the person bullying them they end up directing their anger on people weaker than them.
 
Heck, I couldn't even begin to count the number of times I was hit on my head/face as a kid. I was a bully (learned it from my dad) and grew earlier than the other kids. I never meant to hurt the other kids and as they started to get serious injuries I decided to quit. Later my growth slowed and they caught up with and passed me. A few confronted me years later, after they were maybe 6-8 inches taller than me.

For about a year the kids "Got even" by sneaking up behind me and hitting me on the head or back with what ever they had. Books were the favorite as most other things were considered weapons. Baseballs seemed to be the worst. One time they formed a circle around me and who ever was behind me took their shot...Foolish as I got each one later.

But back to the question. I learned violence from my family. It was normal for me to get it about 3 -5 times a week. Not counting slaps to the face or spankings from Mom, but real belt beatings leaving black/blue marks on the ceiling above the bed from Dad's belt. Left me bruised up too. He'd stand in the door way and swing away until he was tired. I liked it when he threw his shoulder out :-) A few years ago in an undergrad Psych course I learned it actually changes your brain! It affects your neural pathways. And in kinda bad ways. Interestingly, the effects have lingered my whole life. I'm kinda screwed up but its hard to compare psychologically. Physically in my 20's my GF swatted my but and I discovered I have almost no feeling there. Embarrassing but I want to show that at least some bullies are getting seriously abused at home. My motive for bullying? Just waned to be left alone. Couldn't take any joke or ribbing and was violently reactive. It was what I was used to getting - had no idea they didn't experience what I did. BTW having untreated ADD and bi-polar disorder didn't help.

Sorry for hijacking this thread.
 
16 year old girl hanged herself in town a few weeks ago due to bullying.

Sydney kid buried yesterday after being beaten to death in the playground.

We've been dealing with it with our 7 year old daughter and her school...school's attitude was get her to harden up, until they tried to suspend an autistic kid who flattened said bully, and the truth about the sneaky little SOB (bully) started to come out.
 
I would be suing the pants of those kids parents for as much as I could get, then put it into a college fund for the child for later in life.
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Absolutely crazy!
 
The part I like in all this, is that those bullies (and their parents) probably have no clue what they are in for once the authorities get involved. Hope they enjoy the labor day weekend.

That said, having a stroke from a blow to the head w/o having a concussion is certainly very rare and not at all to be be expected in a youngster.

W/o obvious indications of a stroke like condition, the amount of radiation involved in a CT scan is substantial (equal to 100 chest x-rays). So its not something an ER doctor would order lightly, especially w/o evidence of a stroke.

This is one of the most awful parts of being an ER doc, is that you get brutally second guessed if you are wrong post hoc. The key thing is the decision making process at the time, and with all the knowledge available at the time.

http://www.fda.gov/Radiation-EmittingPro...s/ucm115329.htm

Treatment/rehabilitation of TBI/MTBI is a rapidly changing area, and so the folks should make sure the kid gets follow up care with a neurologist with experience in this area.

http://www.healthquality.va.gov/Rehabilitation_of_Concussion_mTBI.asp

http://www.healthquality.va.gov/Management_of_Stroke_Rehabilitation.asp
 
The legal system is far, far too soft, and will NEVER right this wrong. If I was this kids father, I'd find the father of the kid that did it, and probably just about kill him.

I know if this had happened to me at that age, my father would have done that w/o thinking. Going through a long, drawn-out legal process to:

First, have the kid charged with aggravated assault. He's a minor, so the most he would get is some probabtion time. Whoop-dee. Second, sue the parents for the cost involved. Again, long, drawn-out case, and even if you get a judgement, good luck ever collecting on it.
 
Originally Posted By: addyguy
The legal system is far, far too soft, and will NEVER right this wrong. If I was this kids father, I'd find the father of the kid that did it, and probably just about kill him.

I know if this had happened to me at that age, my father would have done that w/o thinking. Going through a long, drawn-out legal process to:

First, have the kid charged with aggravated assault. He's a minor, so the most he would get is some probabtion time. Whoop-dee. Second, sue the parents for the cost involved. Again, long, drawn-out case, and even if you get a judgement, good luck ever collecting on it.


I agree. I was assaulted by a bully on our side lawn when I was around 10. Kid was older (12) and my dad LOST IT, chased him and his accomplice 4 blocks swearing he was going to kill them both. We never saw them in our neighbourhood again. Dad was built like a bulldog back then, about as broad as he was tall. I know I sure as [censored] wouldn't have wanted to be chased by him.

I had a friend who's family was much softer-spoken than mine and who was being regularly bullied by this kid. They had the police involved, his parents were at their wits-end trying to deal with this. Dad recalled his run-in and Ben's dad just sat there wide-eyed, wanting to say he'd do the same, but knowing that he wouldn't so he simply said nothing.

I had never witnessed my father that angry before or since. A parent's love is a strong force.
 
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