What's wrong with my Audi A4?

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Had a quick look into these. Couldn't see any real issues there. Short threads started by someone asking if it's normal that he has to top-up half a quart after 10000 mls. Sorry, I can't take that for serious.
Strange. When I click on those links I see a lot of people whose experiences are very similar to mine.

Again, your A4 did not suffer from any oil use that can be called "excessive" or "abnormal". 100 ml for 1000 km is pretty normal across the industry and that wasn't even measured in a controlled environment. Please notice I'm not talking about "spec". In the past Audi used to say up to 1 l/1000 km is "within spec". However that's a completely different number than what you think is "abnormal". Actually you were very far from that number.
Virtually all manufacturers have an absurdly high allowable oil consumption spec. You can cling to the spec and argue that it's normal, but there's nothing normal about modern low-mileage non-performance engines like mine and the ones in those links needing a topping off within their OCI.
 
Strange. When I click on those links I see a lot of people whose experiences are very similar to mine.

You obviously completely ignore what I was saying. Your Audi did not have any elevated oil consumption
at all. If other people made the same experience as you did, they obviously don't suffer from anything too.
Someone asking on a car forum (perhaps just because there has been an issue in the past) does not mean
there's actually a general problem. There's lots of hypochondriacs on this planet.


Virtually all manufacturers have an absurdly high allowable oil consumption spec. You can cling to the spec and argue that it's normal, but there's nothing normal about modern low-mileage non-performance engines like mine and the ones in those links needing a topping off within their OCI.

Again, you obviously completely ignore what I was saying. I did explicitly state that I don't refer to those
"manfacturer specs". I agree that they're absurd. Your oil consumption has been a tenth of what they used
to say would be acceptable. Honestly, I'd suggest you read my previous posts again.
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I've Not completed a oil consumption test on a gen 3 2.0 yet. I’m still waiting for them to come back in for part 2 of the measurement! Been waiting years!

In all seriousness the gen 3 does not have a oil consumption issue. Neither does it have PCV issues. Only PCV I’ve changed on a gen 3 had been crashed through the front of someone’s house and had a full front end on the car!
 
Again, you obviously completely ignore what I was saying. I did explicitly state that I don't refer to those
"manfacturer specs". I agree that they're absurd. Your oil consumption has been a tenth of what they used
to say would be acceptable. Honestly, I'd suggest you read my previous posts again.
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You seem to think that disagreeing with you means that I'm ignoring your posts. I don't care what the spec says. I had to add oil between OCIs on an engine with fewer than 30k miles. That's not acceptable. That's not normal. It shouldn't be normalized. I'm honestly not sure why you're so insecure about the fact that people other than myself have also had to do this.
 
You seem to think that disagreeing with you means that I'm ignoring your posts. I don't care what the spec says. I had to add oil between OCIs on an engine with fewer than 30k miles. That's not acceptable. That's not normal. It shouldn't be normalized. I'm honestly not sure why you're so insecure about the fact that people other than myself have also had to do this.

Meh. Mountains out of mole hills, IMO.

My car has 27k miles total and I have added, I would guess, six quarts of makeup oil.
 
You seem to think that disagreeing with you means that I'm ignoring your posts. I don't care what the spec says. I had to add oil between OCIs on an engine with fewer than 30k miles. That's not acceptable. That's not normal. It shouldn't be normalized. I'm honestly not sure why you're so insecure about the fact that people other than myself have also had to do this.
You saying it’s not normal does not make it a fact. Having to add a drop of oil every now and then with no proof of how the car has been driven, then stating this is not normal is not normal! I deal With people like this every day saying things like “ my friend says this is not normal/ is covered by the warranty“ or my friend who is a BMW technician says blah blah blah”
 
You saying it’s not normal does not make it a fact. Having to add a drop of oil every now and then with no proof of how the car has been driven, then stating this is not normal is not normal! I deal With people like this every day saying things like “ my friend says this is not normal/ is covered by the warranty“ or my friend who is a BMW technician says blah blah blah”
You saying that it is normal doesn't make it a fact either. When compared against other engines I've owned or have personally used the one in my A4 was the only one that needed to be topped off. All driven under similar conditions. My personal experience.
 
It's not a matter of fact just because he's saying that, it's a matter of fact because that's how all IC engines work. There is not a single one existing on planet earth that has zero oil consumption. One tenth of a liter per 1000 km (that's what you experienced) is still normal by common sense standards. Not to have to top off at all even at extended intervals is may happen, but that doesn't make it normal.

Keep in mind that oil consumption largely varies depending on conditions. Did you run the same OCIs on your other cars? Can you guarantee your previous car(s) didn't suffer from oil dilution? Are you aware of oil dilution? It easily makes you get distracted about oil consumption.
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I can say that as fact though. I am backed by the manufacturer who designed and built the engine. Who are you backed by? Your mate on another forum complaining they had to put 100ml of oil in aver 2000 miles.
 
I can say that as fact though. I am backed by the manufacturer who designed and built the engine. Who are you backed by? Your mate on another forum complaining they had to put 100ml of oil in aver 2000 miles.
No offense, man, but you're a guy on the internet. Just like me.
 
Difference is I’m not pushing incorrect information that could cause someone reading it to think they have something wrong and go into the dealer complaining because they are worried.
 
Patience and respect are key. I still wish I was able to convince you to a certain extent.
I really don't know why certain engines are the way that they are. A friend of mine has an early MK7 GTI with an APR stage 1 tune on it. That car gets driven angry all the time and probably sees redline every other traffic light. It's been beaten on from day 1 and that engine burns no measurable oil. And by not measurable I mean the electronic oil level reads full from the time he fills it to around 7500 mi when he changes it. I believe he's up to almost 60k mi now and that engine's been more or less perfect.
 
Maybe it's just me, but all my cars have had measurable oil consumption over several thousand miles. Not one didn't show at least a couple mm lower on the dipstick (on those cars that had dipsticks) after a couple thousand miles. That's why I said the OP should sniff the dipstick. Not that the smell of gas in the oil is a surefire sign that there is fuel dilution. He can always have his oil tested. I also find oil consumption to be highest during break-in, then to taper down by maybe 15k miles and remain steady until the valve stem seals shrink. By that time the cars usually leak more oil than they consume.
 
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APR tune means richer fuel mix and more blow-by. That could explain it (but doesn't
need so). Nonetheless still hard to believe that engine doesn't use any oil on 7500 mls.

On a side note, Mk7 GTIs don't come with an oil level monitor, just a warning message
when the oil level is low.
 
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