What features have gone away (that you would like to keep)

I want vent windows and ash trays. I have never smoked but when a passenger does the ashes end up in the back seat when they roll down the window. Also the ash tray works to hold little things you find on the floor tat must belong somewhere. I agree on the metal key. My wifes Mazda has a key with a battery in it. It died and I almost didn't get home.
 
Cornering lights, nice to see what might be out there to clunk into.
Oh man as a kid I loved those. Again my parents never had a car with them as they were premium models.

Believe it or not, my 2007 BMW has them. The inside round lights are cornering lamps. When set to auto, they illuminate based on the steering wheel position. I am not sure but would not surprise me if new bmws do not have them, and they often need both front lamps on both sides just for low beam driving. Abandoned their tradition as many car cos have imho
 
I want vent windows and ash trays back. I don't smoke but when others do the ashes end up in the back seat.
You let people smoke in your car? That's very generous of you.

My mom was a smoker, and when she came to CA for her first visit, she smoked everywhere and frequently. After she left my wife complained about the smell and the need to clean so many items.

When she came for a second visit, I removed the ashtray and cigarette lighter from the car (they were one unit) and told my mom that it was broken and that we were waiting for a replacement. I also had her smoke either in the garage or out on the porch. Surprisingly, she was fine with that.
 
Non chip keys. Or at least turn keys in all vehicles even with a chip still better than push button in my opinion. That’s why I’m trying to find an old cop car from my local area or Virginia State Police because they don’t have cars with chip keys a requirement they have is all the vehicles have to have real keys and a key hole in the trunk or hatch and doors. I know the person that orders all the fleet vehicles and that’s what she told me. You always see the cop cars going around and they have the obvious key hole in the trunk lol. The logic they have is they can’t afford to have a smart key go bad while on the road. They can have key fobs to unlock the doors but they have to be separate from the key. And I wish CD players would come back. I know some cars still have them but not all of them like they used too. Some of us don’t like digital music and have no idea how to do anything with a Bluetooth in a car and don’t have music downloaded on their phones but have tons of CD’s. Fortunately all of my cars except four have a CD player and the others are so old all they have is a cassette player lol.
 
Real steel bumpers that would hook together in a collision. Then you got exercise trying to unhook them plus the stares and laughs of everyone going by

Add in the obligatory bumper jack. When you jack up the car you didn’t know if the bumper would come off or the jack would slip.


The good old days.
 
Real steel bumpers that would hook together in a collision. Then you got exercise trying to unhook them plus the stares and laughs of everyone going by

Add in the obligatory bumper jack. When you jack up the car you didn’t know if the bumper would come off or the jack would slip.


The good old days.
Reminds me of being with my dad and changing the H78-14 tires of his Buick, hoping the car wouldn’t slip off and then have to start over again
 
Direct injection, CVT, and 4 catalytic converters are not the manufacturer's choice. Gotta look at what (who) is driving these decisions.

● Get rid of ALL screens in the vehicle

● Knobs for air temperature, direction, and fan speed....3 knobs

● The option to have no options.

● Manual transmission, cruise, A/C, and power locks would be the ideal combo

● A key, a real metal key
Again Blame Tesla and the schizophrenic Musketeer for starting/pushing the "giant screen/ lets remove all of the knobs" trend. I still can't believe that you have to use the screen and scroll through a menu to open the glovebox. What sadistic bonehead thought that was a good idea? Oh right nevermind.
 
Agree with the dislike for screens controlling everything. I prefer switches to menus.
Most screens aren’t integrated, they’re a large flat panel jutting up and out. Just shows how it’s too expensive to be like an Escalade or Grand Wagoneer. So once again people accept it as better. Aesthetics seems to be gone. Like mechanical sympathy which likely we were all taught.
 
Most screens aren’t integrated, they’re a large flat panel jutting up and out. Just shows how it’s too expensive to be like an Escalade or Grand Wagoneer. So once again people accept it as better. Aesthetics seems to be gone. Like mechanical sympathy which likely we were all taught.
Fortunately, the many years of consumer backlash have finally (finally!) taken their toll. I've heard that car companies are going to revert back to buttons (for some things...). Touchscreens are just a stupid marketing decision fueled by the fact that it was actually cheaper to use touchscreens and so company profits were raised (bonus right?). But really, most people with a brain (and fingers) could tell you the user experience is worse with a touch screen.
 
What I miss about older cars (80's and before) is the feeling of spaciousness around the cockpit. Around your knees.

Nowadays, cars have wrap around consoles and smooth curvy dashes that while they look attractive, they really encroach into the cockpit space.

I had an ancient econobox. Very minimalistic. It's cockpit area felt much bigger than that of my current minivan.

1980 Honda Civic interior.webp


I remember being able to easily slip from the driver's seat to the passenger's seat. In the minivan, I have to clamber.

Dodge Caravan dash.webp
 
I had 3 Volvos and I don’t think the 4 spd manual had cruise. The other 2 both cruise and AC no longer worked.
My Volvo with the 4+1 manual transmission had cruise and it worked. But as I noted earlier either it or the Solara had a fault in that the engine would rev like crazy if you declutched it (or maybe it was putting the transmission in neutral) without turning off the cruise as you were slowing down. I wouldn't ordinarily put a car in neutral when I'm slowing down so that doesn't sound right either. I don't remember exactly. I mostly remember the slowing down and engine revving part. Maybe that particular cruise control wasn't working properly.
 
What I miss about older cars (80's and before) is the feeling of spaciousness around the cockpit. Around your knees.

Nowadays, cars have wrap around consoles and smooth curvy dashes that while they look attractive, they really encroach into the cockpit space.
I think it might be intentional, less distance that your legs can travel in the event of a crash—so less bone breaking force. But otherwise I agree.

My Volvo with the 4+1 manual transmission had cruise and it worked. But as I noted earlier either it or the Solara had a fault in that the engine would rev like crazy if you declutched it (or maybe it was putting the transmission in neutral) without turning off the cruise as you were slowing down. I wouldn't ordinarily put a car in neutral when I'm slowing down so that doesn't sound right either. I don't remember exactly. I mostly remember the slowing down and engine revving part. Maybe that particular cruise control wasn't working properly.
My 2011 Camry would rev the engine if I clutched it while using cruise. Poorly designed I guess, but who drives stick I guess? little incentive for Toyota to get it right here.
 
Most screens aren’t integrated, they’re a large flat panel jutting up and out. Just shows how it’s too expensive to be like an Escalade or Grand Wagoneer. So once again people accept it as better. Aesthetics seems to be gone. Like mechanical sympathy which likely we were all taught.
Give me a Pioneer Premier single din cd player I don't need or want a giant tablet in the dash
 
My cars are all gently aged, ok, OLD, AS DIRT!! But I still love them, literally.

Being from the mid 2000s, both of our non SUVs have trunks that use gas struts.

I think this is an advantage in eliminating arms, therefore increasing space.

The 4 door has a 20 cu ft trunk--I don't think many, if any, sedans have a trunk this large today.

I recently (last week) replaced the gas struts which cost < $9 each on rockauto (lifetime warranty, not of any use?)--not bad if they will last 7 years (the last time I replaced them). Of course, Toyota has them for $75.82 each, list price, hardly worth it for OE.

My hunch is it's cheaper to have spring arms, and, with such, it's possible to have a power pull down (still is with struts, but the motion is funny when the trunk has struts imho). I would like to keep this design in a modern car that has a trunk.

What features do you wish were still offered in 2023?

(the yellow electrical tape is my replacement of the XM antenna--the port did a super neat job in fall 2005, where there is a rubber piece that the antenna wire passes through, so as not to get pinched. I had to notch it for mine. imho BMW does a neater job of wiring to the trunk lid--no more splitters available, so I don't have any metadata and "antenna" still flashes, but XM works--have lifetime it seems)

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Your cars are all new…

Got any with wing windows?

Crank windows?
 
I want a car that I can drive to the drive in movies, listen to the radio, and when the show's over I want it to start and run on parking lights only, under cover of darkness.

So no stupid timers to turn the radio off.
No pushing the brake pedal (and turning brake lights on) as part of starting procedure.
Ability to override the auto headlights.
Ability to run the radio without having a glary screen ever-present.
Ability to open the doors without lights coming on, if need be.
 
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