edyvw
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Law enforcement recruitment is an absolute nightmare. It us becoming more difficult each year and we are about to hit “COVID generation “ of graduates that so far proved as absolute catastrophe.
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police officers are not paid enough. I could never handle confronting law breakers for a living.
edyvw
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Pay is not a problem per se. There are bunch of recruits. Problem is quality of applicants.
https://joinaurorapd.com/entry-level-officer/
I work with both PD and FD’s, and FD’s have far less issues hiring quality applicants.
Could you hire better LEO by offering mid 100’s? Sure. But tax base cannot support that.
I recall just last year, the Denver Mayor being proud of defunding the Police, in order to better help "Migrants"...
When crime goes unpunished, you get more crime.
When the police are vilified, you get less policing.
Put the two together and you have a recipe for bad times.
I'm sorry this happened to you, but I am not surprised. Thankfully you were not car-jacked. It's pretty rampant here in Chicago.
When the police are vilified, you get less policing.
Put the two together and you have a recipe for bad times.
I'm sorry this happened to you, but I am not surprised. Thankfully you were not car-jacked. It's pretty rampant here in Chicago.
Last time I checked, there were criminals in every neighborhood of every state in the US.
Aurora and Denver have higher populations of people than BF Oklahoma, or where ever most of you seem to reside.
Because there are more people here, there are more criminals.
Because there are more people, you need more teachers, schools, nurses, doctors, hospitals, firefighters, cops, etc.
All of that costs money to pay those people to do those jobs.
And police departments sometimes allow themselves to be over run with people who view the local citizens as nothing more than targets.
The Aurora PD has had that mentality since the 90's when I first moved from NYC to the Denver area.
It has never improved.
Why a police officer costs $114k per year (using that aurora pd link provided a few posts ago) is an issue when you compare to how little a teacher is paid, and you wonder why you have a bunch of under-educated morons running around stealing things, and breaking into peoples pickup trucks.
Do you want to go into the education requirement differences between a teacher and a police officer?
I don't, but one group is required to go through college training, and the other group is preferred when they don't.
I grew up in NYC in the 80's and 90's.
The crime you have here in Colorado is NOTHING in comparison to the things I grew up with.
The education system is appalling in comparison to NYC's, but the massive number of people who absolutely seethe at having to pay taxes for anything that doesn't directly go into their pocket out here is depressing.
If you don't want people to grow up as criminals, you have to pay to educate them, and allow them to have the ability to get real jobs that pay actual living wages. But, a whole bunch of you are getting ready to jump down my throat.
Knock yourselves out.
Aurora and Denver have higher populations of people than BF Oklahoma, or where ever most of you seem to reside.
Because there are more people here, there are more criminals.
Because there are more people, you need more teachers, schools, nurses, doctors, hospitals, firefighters, cops, etc.
All of that costs money to pay those people to do those jobs.
And police departments sometimes allow themselves to be over run with people who view the local citizens as nothing more than targets.
The Aurora PD has had that mentality since the 90's when I first moved from NYC to the Denver area.
It has never improved.
Why a police officer costs $114k per year (using that aurora pd link provided a few posts ago) is an issue when you compare to how little a teacher is paid, and you wonder why you have a bunch of under-educated morons running around stealing things, and breaking into peoples pickup trucks.
Do you want to go into the education requirement differences between a teacher and a police officer?
I don't, but one group is required to go through college training, and the other group is preferred when they don't.
I grew up in NYC in the 80's and 90's.
The crime you have here in Colorado is NOTHING in comparison to the things I grew up with.
The education system is appalling in comparison to NYC's, but the massive number of people who absolutely seethe at having to pay taxes for anything that doesn't directly go into their pocket out here is depressing.
If you don't want people to grow up as criminals, you have to pay to educate them, and allow them to have the ability to get real jobs that pay actual living wages. But, a whole bunch of you are getting ready to jump down my throat.
Knock yourselves out.
Having your vehicle broken into is just awful.
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Hope they will fix it with out wanting to repaint over 1/3 of the whole vehicle.
To me, this screams desperate addict looking for something of value to sell.
The incompetent attempt to gain entry to the vehicle would indicate a very inexperienced would-be thief.
So easy to gain entry to any vehicle using the proper kit.
Maybe we need to make medically assisted treatment more widely available?
Might be cheaper for us as a society than our current system.
The incompetent attempt to gain entry to the vehicle would indicate a very inexperienced would-be thief.
So easy to gain entry to any vehicle using the proper kit.
Maybe we need to make medically assisted treatment more widely available?
Might be cheaper for us as a society than our current system.
This is why it's not uncommon -- esp on GMT800s, or at least that's where I see it done the most -- to simply eliminate the key cylinder on the driver's door, too.
For whatever reason thieves are drawn to that little round thing, even though I imagine success rates are well under 10%?
For whatever reason thieves are drawn to that little round thing, even though I imagine success rates are well under 10%?
Hmm, some savvy with cars, might own the exact same truck. Likely male, white or Hispanic. If in the more forested or rural suburbs, more likely to be a farmer, mechanic, etc who knows how to fix their own cars.
I mean, Colorado got small towns that used to be way isolated. Now, it's booming population wise, but the old tough guys still man the rural areas in their Ford pickups...
I mean, Colorado got small towns that used to be way isolated. Now, it's booming population wise, but the old tough guys still man the rural areas in their Ford pickups...
Education doesn't cure deceit or unethical behavior. It just shunts them into non-criminal areas. Coroporate malefesance. Divorce. Or become professionals where deceit is normal and acceptable(i.e lawyer, cop, real estate agent, car salesmen, politician[overlaps with lawyer]
I've heard this BS from teachers for a long time. First off, they have the entire summer off. So if they worked a full year like the rest of us, that 59K per year would be more like 80K per year. Thats more than the average salary in the US
https://www.usatoday.com/money/blueprint/business/hr-payroll/average-salary-us/
Second, what you aren't telling us is how well off they retire. What happens with teachers is the last 3 years of employment, their salary gets jacked up by a LOT. That gets them more pension money in retirement. Not to mention the best fully paid healthcare. I've always asked whining teachers who complain they don't set social security, if they would be willing to trade their pensions for my Social Security check. Not one takes me up on the offer.
Third, teachers don't put their lives on the line like police officers do. But OH SNAP!! That brat who won't pay attention in gender studies class is really annoying! It makes a teacher's day oh so rough!
So let me think......if I lived in Aurora CO and had a choice. Make 59k for a cush air conditioned job and have summers off, with future fantastic retirement benefits, or put my life on the line for 114k per year, what would I choose?
I'd take the easy teacher job for sure.
Bring back trades education in high school and you might have me.
Our neighbor to the south HEAVILY subsidizes vo-tech and I went through two years of formal machining training for ~$300 per semester (that's about $1200 for two years, for those who had really poor math teechin')
New Mexico figured out ya just ain't gonna crank out Nobel Prize winners and brain surgeons, but let's get people to work in the skilled trades like auto, auto body, nursing, welding, cosmetology etc
I honestly don't know if NM has done studies on how much this has helped them, but it sure as heck helped me!! -- and I was a CO resident but they include ALL of the Four Corners
Our neighbor to the south HEAVILY subsidizes vo-tech and I went through two years of formal machining training for ~$300 per semester (that's about $1200 for two years, for those who had really poor math teechin')
New Mexico figured out ya just ain't gonna crank out Nobel Prize winners and brain surgeons, but let's get people to work in the skilled trades like auto, auto body, nursing, welding, cosmetology etc
I honestly don't know if NM has done studies on how much this has helped them, but it sure as heck helped me!! -- and I was a CO resident but they include ALL of the Four Corners
Got 2 estimates and came to $3400 in damages. Needs a new door, latch, lock cylinder and blend the fender and back door in.
Ouch!
Yeah, they cracked the door and the door itself is like eight or $900
