Making oil with a Peugeot 3008 in Spain (Rental Car Review)

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Was in Spain recently and after some discussion we rented a car rather than take the the train. Spain is mountainous in parts, and after taking the train from Madrid to Valladolid, we decided there were too many tunnels for our liking; that liking being sightseeing.

This turned out to be the correct decision for us. We drove most of the length of Spain, route was Valladolid-Cordoba-Malaga-Estapona and turned in the car at Algeciras before taking a cab to Tarifa and the hydrofoil over the Strait of Gibraltar to Tangier, Morocco. I highly recommend pretty much every part of this route for driving save for maybe the flatlands directly south of Madrid.

Our rental Peugeot from Hertz was a pretty nice compact CUV, room was good behind the wheel for this 6'7" driver with the seat all the way down. There was room in the rear cargo area for all of our 3 carry on bags and 3 backpacks. Had some sort of turbocharged 4 cylinder and an 8 speed dual clutch transmission with gear readout on the dash, i.e., D1, D2, D3, etc depending on what gear the transmission was in. Leather interior and wired Android Auto/Apple CarPlay, automatic dual climate controls and so forth. 100% manual seats for both the driver and passenger, but very comfortable. Menus were all in Spanish but we went into the "Idioma" section and changed it all to English. Forgot to change it back when we turned it in, whoops!

This transmission had the smoothest takeoff I had ever experienced with a dual clutch, yet still had the traditional super snappy shifts. The engine on the other hand sounded odd and gurgly taking off and driving at lower speeds. It almost seemed quieter at full boil, didn't really sound like a raspy 4 cylinder at all. I had the chance to do mulltiple excursions at the high end of the RPM range in the early part of our drive as we were on a 2 lane for about 100km leaving Valladolid. The tires could have used a bit of balancing, as there was a small shake above 110km/h or so (68mph). The brakes on the other hand were on-point, no vibration whatsoever even when applied at speeds quite a bit above the legal limit.

The cruise control that I used at times was super odd. It was on a stalk below the turn signal stalk and it took at least 50km for me to figure out how to set it. You have to set the speed first and then you can activate it. I kept getting an error trying to activate it until I figured it out. This car has a total of 3 stalks on the steering column, for turns, wipers and cruise. The French are so odd...

This car was a pretty good handler for a French car, took some curves at speeds that my wife commented negatively on but the body remained mostly flat. Going up the mountain passes it wasn't exactly scintilating speed, but yet still you could accelerate up steeper hills on the freeway at 140kmh if you needed to. I'd say the power was adequate for the car's purpose.

I didn't keep real close tabs on the fuel consumption but we used about 100 Euros worth of gas to drive over 900 kilometers at a price varying from 1.45 to 1.56EUR a liter, or a little under USD $6 per gallon if my math is correct on the exchange rate and liters to gallons conversion.
The first day we drove about 380 miles from Valladolid to Cordoba and I must say that Cordoba is a wonderful city. We stayed in the old historical center which was a bit of a challenge driving - I missed the parking lot and had to drive 20 minutes back out of the old town and back in, after dropping my wife and daughter at the hotel. But that was a minor inconvenience as we loved walking around the old city.

The next morning upon starting the car, I got some kind of message about the oil - still in Spanish even though I thought I had changed everything to English. I thought maybe it was low. But when we stopped for gas, I checked the oil and it was overfull! Thusly my reference to "making oil" with this vehicle. I can only assume that being in colder Valladolid in the north of Spain, the direct injection had put quite a bit of fuel in the oil. I had been prepared to buy a quart, err liter, to add, but since it was overfull, I figured that was someone else's problem.

We drove on to Malaga which I must say is a beautiful drive, miles of olive trees, soaring peaks, deep canyons and then a frantic descent down to the coast. The car performed flawlessly and the oil message never recurred, I guess it learned it's lesson. Parking was a bit of a challenge in the old town of Malaga but we got it done, our hotel was not on a road and was only walkable so we pared down the suitcases and then left the car in the garage overnight.

Next day was a short jaunt past Marbella to Estapona, which was a wonderful small coastal town. After 1 toll booth I decided to skip the rest of the toll roads and drive along the coast. When I got to the on-ramp for the non-toll coastal freeway, there was a stop sign at the end of the ramp. I waited for a spot in the traffic and then floored it. For a split second absolutely nothing happened, then it accelerated quickly to freeway speed. That was a bit uncomfortable, but, it never ended up being a safety issue as I had a good amount of space and the speed limit was low, 80 or 90 KMH, I don't remember which. Found a surface parking spot near our AirBnb was was fantastic, I had budgeted another 25EUR for overnight parking. Our AirBnB was right across the walking promenade from the beach, which we enjoyed despite it being slightly cold.

Last day was about a 1 hour jaunt to Algeciras near the Rock of Gibraltar, which my wife got pictures of. We found a gas station in town when we were close to the rental turn in place which was at the train station. They didn't technically open until 9, but, someone was there at 8:30 to take our key. Which helped as it was a longer cab ride to Tarifa than we thought for the ferry to Tangier and our boat was at 10. Everything worked out ok though and we arrived Tangier just before 11 and were able to get on the 12:05 fast train to Rabat, the capital of Morocco.

Overall I liked this vehicle. Would I rent it again? Yes, absolutely. Would I buy it? Probably not, I don't exactly trust the reliability of French vehicles, guess I saw too many broke down Renaults when I was a kid.
 
I hope you and family liked Spain!
Well about 3008... most of petrol and diesel Peugeot/Citroen have big issues in last 15-20 years, engines repair under 60k miles 5000$, injectors 2000$, adblue deposits 1500$, ESP issues, turbos, oil pumps... terrible.
 
Was in Spain recently and after some discussion we rented a car rather than take the the train. Spain is mountainous in parts, and after taking the train from Madrid to Valladolid, we decided there were too many tunnels for our liking; that liking being sightseeing.

This turned out to be the correct decision for us. We drove most of the length of Spain, route was Valladolid-Cordoba-Malaga-Estapona and turned in the car at Algeciras before taking a cab to Tarifa and the hydrofoil over the Strait of Gibraltar to Tangier, Morocco. I highly recommend pretty much every part of this route for driving save for maybe the flatlands directly south of Madrid.

Our rental Peugeot from Hertz was a pretty nice compact CUV, room was good behind the wheel for this 6'7" driver with the seat all the way down. There was room in the rear cargo area for all of our 3 carry on bags and 3 backpacks. Had some sort of turbocharged 4 cylinder and an 8 speed dual clutch transmission with gear readout on the dash, i.e., D1, D2, D3, etc depending on what gear the transmission was in. Leather interior and wired Android Auto/Apple CarPlay, automatic dual climate controls and so forth. 100% manual seats for both the driver and passenger, but very comfortable. Menus were all in Spanish but we went into the "Idioma" section and changed it all to English. Forgot to change it back when we turned it in, whoops!

This transmission had the smoothest takeoff I had ever experienced with a dual clutch, yet still had the traditional super snappy shifts. The engine on the other hand sounded odd and gurgly taking off and driving at lower speeds. It almost seemed quieter at full boil, didn't really sound like a raspy 4 cylinder at all. I had the chance to do mulltiple excursions at the high end of the RPM range in the early part of our drive as we were on a 2 lane for about 100km leaving Valladolid. The tires could have used a bit of balancing, as there was a small shake above 110km/h or so (68mph). The brakes on the other hand were on-point, no vibration whatsoever even when applied at speeds quite a bit above the legal limit.

The cruise control that I used at times was super odd. It was on a stalk below the turn signal stalk and it took at least 50km for me to figure out how to set it. You have to set the speed first and then you can activate it. I kept getting an error trying to activate it until I figured it out. This car has a total of 3 stalks on the steering column, for turns, wipers and cruise. The French are so odd...

This car was a pretty good handler for a French car, took some curves at speeds that my wife commented negatively on but the body remained mostly flat. Going up the mountain passes it wasn't exactly scintilating speed, but yet still you could accelerate up steeper hills on the freeway at 140kmh if you needed to. I'd say the power was adequate for the car's purpose.

I didn't keep real close tabs on the fuel consumption but we used about 100 Euros worth of gas to drive over 900 kilometers at a price varying from 1.45 to 1.56EUR a liter, or a little under USD $6 per gallon if my math is correct on the exchange rate and liters to gallons conversion.
The first day we drove about 380 miles from Valladolid to Cordoba and I must say that Cordoba is a wonderful city. We stayed in the old historical center which was a bit of a challenge driving - I missed the parking lot and had to drive 20 minutes back out of the old town and back in, after dropping my wife and daughter at the hotel. But that was a minor inconvenience as we loved walking around the old city.

The next morning upon starting the car, I got some kind of message about the oil - still in Spanish even though I thought I had changed everything to English. I thought maybe it was low. But when we stopped for gas, I checked the oil and it was overfull! Thusly my reference to "making oil" with this vehicle. I can only assume that being in colder Valladolid in the north of Spain, the direct injection had put quite a bit of fuel in the oil. I had been prepared to buy a quart, err liter, to add, but since it was overfull, I figured that was someone else's problem.

We drove on to Malaga which I must say is a beautiful drive, miles of olive trees, soaring peaks, deep canyons and then a frantic descent down to the coast. The car performed flawlessly and the oil message never recurred, I guess it learned it's lesson. Parking was a bit of a challenge in the old town of Malaga but we got it done, our hotel was not on a road and was only walkable so we pared down the suitcases and then left the car in the garage overnight.

Next day was a short jaunt past Marbella to Estapona, which was a wonderful small coastal town. After 1 toll booth I decided to skip the rest of the toll roads and drive along the coast. When I got to the on-ramp for the non-toll coastal freeway, there was a stop sign at the end of the ramp. I waited for a spot in the traffic and then floored it. For a split second absolutely nothing happened, then it accelerated quickly to freeway speed. That was a bit uncomfortable, but, it never ended up being a safety issue as I had a good amount of space and the speed limit was low, 80 or 90 KMH, I don't remember which. Found a surface parking spot near our AirBnb was was fantastic, I had budgeted another 25EUR for overnight parking. Our AirBnB was right across the walking promenade from the beach, which we enjoyed despite it being slightly cold.

Last day was about a 1 hour jaunt to Algeciras near the Rock of Gibraltar, which my wife got pictures of. We found a gas station in town when we were close to the rental turn in place which was at the train station. They didn't technically open until 9, but, someone was there at 8:30 to take our key. Which helped as it was a longer cab ride to Tarifa than we thought for the ferry to Tangier and our boat was at 10. Everything worked out ok though and we arrived Tangier just before 11 and were able to get on the 12:05 fast train to Rabat, the capital of Morocco.

Overall I liked this vehicle. Would I rent it again? Yes, absolutely. Would I buy it? Probably not, I don't exactly trust the reliability of French vehicles, guess I saw too many broke down Renaults when I was a kid.
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I hope you and family liked Spain!
Well about 3008... most of petrol and diesel Peugeot/Citroen have big issues in last 15-20 years, engines repair under 60k miles 5000$, injectors 2000$, adblue deposits 1500$, ESP issues, turbos, oil pumps... terrible.
Since you mentioned it, this car had 61xxx kilometers on it and seemed mechanically sorted other than the aforementioned need of tire balancing, but that's pretty par for the course on higher mileage (kilometerage?) rental cars.

I have been to Spain before, but it was the first time for my wife and child. We all loved it.

We went to Valladolid straight off the plane because my wife has a cousin from Brasil that has been living there for 20 years and she had not seen for that length of time. Quaint medium sized town that we enjoyed, we stayed about a 5 minute walk from the train station at a very nice little hotel. It seemed smaller than it was when I looked up the population on Wikipedia.

Cordoba, we just plucked off a map as a place that didn't look too far from Madrid since we had planned to take the train back to Madrid and pick up the car at the airport, but we decided to cancel that and just pick up the car in Valladolid. Cordoba we knew nothing about and it was a big surprise. Cordoba has a wonderful old city and I would like to go back another time and explore more.

Malaga, we went to mainly for the Picasso museum and the old Roman hilltop fortress. We stayed about a 5 minute walk from the fortress. Another spot I would like to explore more.

Estapona was another place we just picked off the map, we wanted something on the beach but that was not too far from Algeciras, as we had to turn the car in at Algeciras and be in Tarifa by 9:15 or so for our boat to Tangier. Estapona has a wonderful beachfront boardwalk and promenade with lots of shops and restaurants, I imagine that it would be quite packed in the summertime.

I think my only regret was not spending more time at each spot, we were moving around a lot because our trip was only 12 days total and we had a wedding to go to in Morocco. But in retrospect I would have prioritized spending more time in Spain and less time in Morocco. There is not that much to see in Rabat and Casablanca, IMO. We enjoyed Marrakesh a little more but still I would have traded it for more time in Spain.
 
One thing I forgot to mention: I was notified via text from Hertz (after we arrived back in the US) that I had received a speeding infraction on the A-4, kilometer 135. Infraction was "velocidad". Fine was listed as 125EUR, but if I paid it within 72 hours, it would be 62.50EUR. I paid it, was about $65US on my card, not worth the time to try to fight it.
 
Yeah in km 135 there is a radar, smallest fine is 100€ (50€ if paid before 20 days for us), seems Hertz add any "management" extra. Anyway if it's all then you are lucky.
 
Yeah in km 135 there is a radar, smallest fine is 100€ (50€ if paid before 20 days for us), seems Hertz add any "management" extra. Anyway if it's all then you are lucky.
How can you see exactly where this is? I tried looking for "A-4 kilometer 135" and some other queries but Google Maps wasn't much help. There's no doubt I was speeding, but, I'd still like to know, if only to satisfy my own curiosity.

The radar controls are marked with signs, so, I thought I had slowed down for all of them, but maybe not.
 
All these European “gas sippers” are great to rent but I wouldn’t want to own one. They sure seem to get a lot of envy from many BITOGERs though.
You can walk into most any dealer in most of Europe and buy a car with a manual, or a turbodiesel, or both if you want, in a variety of displacements and vehicle sizes. That is not possible here. I think that's what people on BITOG like about them.

The Peugeot 3008 we rented was not a small vehicle even by American standards, I'm 6'7" and it's just not comfortable or even possible in some cases to rent a tiny econobox. Plus we needed to accommate 3 rollons and 3 good sized backpacks along with the schwag we acquired along the way. Maybe could have made a smaller vehicle work but the Peugeot was a good compromise between cost and size for me and my family. The 3008, it would probably compete against the CR-V and Rav4 if it was sold here, yet had better front seat headroom and legroom than both of them.

Don't know about gas sipping because I didn't calculate it exactly. Rough edge of the seat calculation is in the 31-33 MPG range with ours. Just generalizing, roughly 900km, roughly 100EUR spent, rough average price 1.50 per liter, 66.6667 liters based on those rough calcuations purchased divided by 3.785 to make roughly 17.6 gallons, 900km=559 miles, divide that by 17.6 equals 31.76 mpg.

But it was more than 900 km, by how much I'm didn't calculate exactly and maybe the gas was a few cents less than 1.50, eh don't really care about the exact calculations. I was on vacation. I could go back and match up the credit card transactions with what I remember the price being at each station and extrapolate a closer estimate but anyway. Don't care.

I guess I never mentioned the rental cost. The base rate that I reserved at was $200 for 5 days and that was for a small CUV but they didn't have any of those so I had to go up to the next class which was EUR 276, and then the various taxes and fees and then I chose to have the best insurance possible because I wanted to walk away if I wrecked it. Out the door with 200 deposit was around 660 but I got my 200 EUR deposit back already, so around 460 all in, or $92 a day. Would have been cheaper of course if I dropped it off in the same location, I think there was a 105 EUR fee for that, IIRC.
 
One thing I neglected to mention is what a joy it is to drive on the freeway in Spain as compared to the US. People actually are polite drivers and move over for faster traffic, let you in from the on ramps, use their turn signals, don't stare at their phones, etc, etc. I mean it was really an absolute pleasure to drive over there.

It used to be a lot more similar in the US when I was learning to drive in the 1980s and I miss it.
 
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