Valvoline Restore & Protect

[wpod]

Probably better than all of them

Better in what way?,

 

[wpod]

The bottle says "79% stronger protection vs industry standard" meanwhile their EP says "50% stronger protection vs industry standard". Thoughts?

New and improved?

 

[buster]

Yes. I'd say the majority of reviews are positive so far with the number 1 noticeable effect being a reduction in oil consumption. Whether it's a long drain capable oil and good for high performance applications I don't know. But everything so far suggests it works as advertised.

 

[wpod]

With the Saudi acquisition, and I assume their own portfolio of base oils, buying from Shell may not be long lived unless it's somehow cheaper.

I would say the Saudi know oil.

 

[buster]

LOL

 

[wpod]

Oh darn ! Just when I was thinking I found a motor oil (R&P) that would protect my Hyundai 2.4L Theta II engine from grenading itself …

Oil won't help poor quality of manufacturing problems.

 

[wpod]

*What exactly does having cleaner pistons accomplish in the engine (gas milage, horse power, etc. ) ? ... I primarily think about trying to just keep all internals clean .

Piston ring sticking.

 

[JWB]

Reviews that were sponsored by Valvoline and lack any factual data to support the reviewer's claims.
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Valvoline can't lie about the claims. If they did one of the other Bigs would sue them. They have the testing to prove it or they wouldn't claim it.

 

[Gene K]

I got an acquaintance that swears it worked on an old 2.4 Nissan.

Havoline 5W-30
Used qt every 1500 mi
Changed every 3000 mi

Valvoline R&P 5W-30
Uses qt every 5000 mi
Changed every 5000 mi

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Oil won't help poor quality of manufacturing problems.

Cancer drugs of today delay death.
Why can't upper-tier motor oils like Amsoil and HPL do the same?
Wait - no need to answer my question. Those-2 oil brands already have shown the ability to delay Live Action Grim Reaper Grenades.

In another year or two, we may add Valvoline Restore & Protect to an upper-echelon club.

 

[Gene K]

Cancer drugs of today delay death.
Why can't upper-tier motor oils like Amsoil and HPL do the same?
Wait - no need to answer my question. Those-2 oil brands already have shown the ability to delay Live Action Grim Reaper Grenades.

While you cannot fix a flawed design, you can pick the lubricant that exacerbates it the least. If you only have one leg you might find a crutch useful.

 

[OVERKILL]

Cancer drugs of today delay death.
Why can't upper-tier motor oils like Amsoil and HPL do the same?
Wait - no need to answer my question. Those-2 oil brands already have shown the ability to delay Live Action Grim Reaper Grenades.

In another year or two, we may add Valvoline Restore & Protect to an upper-echelon club.

While you cannot fix a flawed design, you can pick the lubricant that exacerbates it the least. If you only have one leg you might find a crutch useful.

It depends on the type of issue. If it's rings getting clogged up, sure, a better oil, one that resists that process or actively cleans it, will be an improvement, however, if it's a defective mechanical component that's going to fail regardless due to poor metallurgy, the oil selection isn't going to help, for example the Pentastar roller follower issue, which was a materials problem.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

It depends on the type of issue. If it's rings getting clogged up, sure, a better oil, one that resists that process or actively cleans it, will be an improvement, however, if it's a defective mechanical component that's going to fail regardless due to poor metallurgy, the oil selection isn't going to help, for example the Pentastar roller follower issue, which was a materials problem.

So you're saying the motor oils you use have the same wear protection as Supertech for 3-4-5k OCIs?
You are saying it benefits no Hyunkia owner to use HPL instead of Supertech?
So you are saying the connecting rod bearings (majority failures) will fail at the same mileage regardless?

Are you forgetting that I stated for the past six years that no oil can stop the H/K failures. But there are oils that can slow / delay the failure rate for extended periods?

 

[OVERKILL]

So you're saying the motor oils you use have the same wear protection as Supertech for 3-4-5k OCIs?
You are saying it benefits no Hyunkia owner to use HPL instead of Supertech?
So you are saying the connecting rod bearings (majority failures) will fail at the same mileage regardless?

Are you forgetting that I stated for the past six years that no oil can stop the H/K failures. But there are oils that can slow / delay the failure rate for extended periods?

I was clear in stating what I did. If you want to take a snort and then make a laundry list of ad-hoc inferences from what was a pretty clear statement, fill your boots, I'm not railing a line and jumping into the mud with you.

 

[nthach]

1K in on VRP on the Prius. Oil is down 2mm from the full mark. I’ll do another check next time I get gas.

I did notice the local WM is out of VRP.

 

[picklyrickly1073]

Is the consensus to run this for shorter OCI for the first few rounds? My car will only be at 30k miles by the time I potentially switch, doing 5k intervals now

 

[kschachn]

Are you forgetting that I stated for the past six years that no oil can stop the H/K failures. But there are oils that can slow / delay the failure rate for extended periods?

There were other things you've done in the past six years as well.

 

[ZeeOSix]

Is the consensus to run this for shorter OCI for the first few rounds? My car will only be at 30k miles by the time I potentially switch, doing 5k intervals now

If your car only has 30K miles on it, I don't think there would be much to clean. In this case, I'd just run the the R&P for your normal 5K OCI.

 

[4WD]

With more folks getting on the this stuff works train - gives rise to the when it works best question since it’s said the action is in the additives -vs- ester/AN in some boutique lubes that can be run extended OCI’s. This not being marketed that way - it’s probably best for 5K for more than one OCI. Not sure if the 4X push applies to cleaner engines - who knows?
(does the cleaning ability decay)

 

[Ayrton]

With more folks getting on the this stuff works train - gives rise to the when it works best question since it’s said the action is in the additives -vs- ester/AN in some boutique lubes that can be run extended OCI’s. This not being marketed that way - it’s probably best for 5K for more than one OCI. Not sure if the 4X push applies to cleaner engines - who knows?
(does the cleaning ability decay)

I've wondered if the cleaning ability decays during the OCI as well. I'd love to hear any speculation on this?

Part two, I think every car would be different in terms of how long it takes to clean the rings. I could see some cars needing more than even the four suggested changes, especially since It's an ambiguous "standard" interval. Of course, if you're not burning oil, just how clean do you need em?

Finally, that's why I feel like it would be better to just switch permanently to the product, if only they offered a 40 weight (in USA) or Euro grade for me. The absence of that is why I would eventually switch away from the product (since I'm using it in a Euro car). A shame.