lol, I totally mixed you up with the other guy. Apologies! Or were you the one who took the bet. I'm lost. And maybe a bit senile.....
Valvoline Restore & Protect 5w-30 (Gonna Take a Chance)
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Doesn’t say restore and protect for one thing. >(
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Hah! I admire your confidence but alas:
I only accept payment in Valvoline Restore and Protect™, bratwursts, and dinosaur-themed socks.
Would this oil help a burner like a prius????? if so.... thats a game changer
Buy it, try it, do a VOA and UOA and let us know.
Does anyone think Mobil 1 ESP or amsoil is better? It’s all overkill but I just want to start the vehicle on the best and keep using it. I had the entire vehicle fluid filmed and I ceramic buffed it when I brought it home. I plan on keeping it a long time. So like most of you I always seek the best
It depends how you define better. For longer drains Amsoil SS is better. For certain high-end approvals, ESP is better. It's a very fragmented market with a lot of niche products now.
If you use a premium oil like Amsoil/HPL/Mobil 1, then you will likely always have a very clean engine free of piston deposits. Preventing them in the first place is most important.
For moderate OCI, this Valvoline appears to be a very good option if you want a RC oil that is approved. Per Valvoline, it's unique in that it can actually clean piston deposits by dissolving them. It's possible that Amsoil SS, and Mobil 1 ESP can also dissolve piston deposits because it contains high solvency base oils, but it's never been demonstrated so no one knows.
There's nothing with which to make a comparison. It's probably similar to M1 products which have similar claims. Amsoil and Redline for that matter may also fall into that category but neither make similar claims as M1 or Valvoline.
I'm going to guess with confidence that RL can't dissolve piston deposits but will run clean. Certain grades of Mobil 1 may be able to but even that is questionable. JAG did a backyard chemist test a few years ago and Amsoil SS was able to clean some varnish off a piece of copper. Likely due to the esters Amsoil is using. This is all just my opinion.
Redline utilized esters in the formulations as well as far as I know?
They do, possibly the most. But they don't' appear to have that cleaning ability. Red Line told me they won't clean but will run clean. Others have found the same thing with Red Line.
I could see people advertising engines as rebuilt on Craigslist with this and a little spray paint.
"it's been restored on!"
Amsoil SS would be a waste, to protect your warranty you'd need to at least change it when the OLM went off, and SS could probably do double that without breaking a sweat. If it was the same price I'd use it, but Amsoil SS would be more than double.
I don't consider the EcoBoost a good candidate for longer drains anyway. Like many here, I'm sticking to no more than 5k intervals with a good synthetic.
I'm sure there are some top notch chemist's/tribologist's at Valvoline. I also tend to think they probably happened upon an ad pack chemical that modifies the small amount of AN or other esters used to get the ring lands/pistons clean. They have this ability in their Cummins Restore oils and probably looked at ways to get similar results with their gasoline oils. I also believe that the price for this product will trend downward over the years as others copy it and compete with it.
There is nothing wrong with it I'm sure. It's the fact that you think a new engine needs to be restored? Are you planning on neglecting it? That's the only reason it will need any kind of cleaning or "restoration".
It's got the Ford approval, SP, and GF-6A. The limited literature available doesn't mention extended drain intervals, so run it for 5k like any sane Ecoboost owner should, and follow up with a UOA.
It's from a major company (no Triax BS) that's involved in racing (AMG F1 and lesser series), commercial diesel fleets, and more. Run with confidence.
I'm doing a valve adjust on my hooptie (04 TL 167k). Going to get pics of the valve covers removed, run this for 5k, and follow up with a borescope of the valve train. Follow up will be awhile, because I alternate cars depending on if I'm on preschool duty.
It's from a major company (no Triax BS) that's involved in racing (AMG F1 and lesser series), commercial diesel fleets, and more. Run with confidence.
I'm doing a valve adjust on my hooptie (04 TL 167k). Going to get pics of the valve covers removed, run this for 5k, and follow up with a borescope of the valve train. Follow up will be awhile, because I alternate cars depending on if I'm on preschool duty.
I order from their corporate depot from time to time. 10% off for signing up and buy one get one free right now. Free shipping over a threshold. Not sure if the new stuff is available yet.
https://shop.valvolineglobal.com/?u...JdH_pxE88IWMshvlnXTadp6O1ymiLBpVNt5Su0ir8MOh8
https://shop.valvolineglobal.com/?u...JdH_pxE88IWMshvlnXTadp6O1ymiLBpVNt5Su0ir8MOh8
It’s not on the AutoZone website that I can find even though it’s made it to the shelves. They have Extended Protection on clearance on the website though.
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