Hey, take it easy on this guy. He owes me 40$
EDIT: I apologize to proveitwithdata - he isn't the one who owes me 40 bucks.
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Valvoline Restore & Protect 5w-30 (Gonna Take a Chance)
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EDIT: I apologize to proveitwithdata - he isn't the one who owes me 40 bucks.
Up to. So somewhere between 0% and 100%
Valvoline claims that for this product.
But others don’t. They make claims about sludge, but not piston deposits.
Big difference between the two. That’s the point. This one claims to do what others don’t.
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Agreed. Usually higher mileage oils lack it. But my main point was that the price is pretty high for not carrying it while also making what amount to non tangible claims for claimed results which will happen years down the road.
Well... expensive to me anyway. Maybe I'm just a cheapskate.
I’m with you. Even if it does everything it’s advertised to do and then some….do I really need to use it since I’ve been changing my oil every 5k with whatever was on sale? I don’t have sludge, if I have piston deposits they certainly don’t affect driveability or performance.
Again, sludge and piston deposits are not the same thing. Removing piston deposits and varnish requires a lot of solvency. Sludge can be removed via detergents and dispersants.Pennzoil:
From as far back as 2008….
“In fact, the superior active cleansing agents in Pennzoil Platinum full synthetic motor oil not only help prevent sludge, but also clean out up to 46% of built-up sludge in the first oil change.”
Pennzoil Platinum Cleans Engine Sludge in the First Oil Change
Earlier this year, Pennzoil announced a new brand strategy that makes strong claims about the oil's ability to help keep a vehicle's engine clean, and a clean engine's connection to the driver. The bold, new brand initiative is built around the theme of "Feel the Clean." In fact, the superior...www.techshopmag.com
Mobil One:
“Ultimate engine performance even in severe conditions. 20X better high temperature protection. Excellent low temperature protection for easy start-up. Helps remove sludge in just one oil change.”
Mobil 1™ Extended Performance High Mileage 5W-30
You trust your car to keep you going—even after 75,000 miles. Mobil 1 Extended Performance High Mileage full-synthetic motor oil gives engines with over 75,000 miles the extra care they need to go the distance. Formulated to help prevent leaks, it helps to protect critical engine parts for up to...www.mobil.com
So again, what’s different about this product than the ones I just listed above?
It's different formulation than the Restore developed with Cummins.
I saw this. Unfamiliar with the site, but they claim Restore and Protect is Group IV/V oils. I personally don't care what the group of oil is that I use as long as the performance is there. I wish Valvoline would post specs for the oil.
Edit: link is for wrong product with similar name. Disregard.
Edit: link is for wrong product with similar name. Disregard.
That is a different product
Hard carbon in the ring lands is different from sludge. Like all the other posters are saying, basically all modern oils will clean sludge if changed regularly. Talk about sludge is just muddling the topic. @mco30mco I was being sarcastic about the project farm video. I think Valvoline is doing something others aren't, and they a history with true cleaning oils, see Premium Blue Restore.
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To me “deposits” and “sludge” are simply semantics and marketing. No different than pennzoils claim to keep pistons cleaner. If the product is keeping pistons cleaner, it’s also cleaning them as well. Perhaps this is simply their restore for the diesels rebottled. Or a good ester based oil.
It's not semantics. Sludge and deposits are different. It is not the same product.
If you use a good oil from the start, your pistons will stay relatively clean. If you put PUP into an engine that had dirty pistons, it will not be able to clean the pistons back to factory levels. The Valvoline oil can because it was designed to do so.
My guess is that it'll have more or use AN's. A little AN goes a long way from what I understand. It may be a decent alternative for those oil burners out there.Restore & Protect - Valvoline™ Global
From the moment it starts for the very first time, critical parts of your engine begin building up harmful deposits that are nearly impossible to reverse - until now. Valvoline Restore & Protect is the first and only motor oil that prevents future deposit formation and restores pistons to...www.valvolineglobal.com
OP needs to get a VOA.
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pretty large grey area if you ask me?
Id like my $40 now please in crispy new dollar bills?
How did you win? Do you have data proving that my camp is upset?
Hey my camp, if this new Valvoline product upsets you in any way, please quote and reply to my post......
Daddy needs his 40 bucks.
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I dont even know what camps are, just pointing out the grey area in the marketing material. But if that leads me to get 40 smackroos dm me.
Anybody have an oil chugging: VW, Audi, Toyota, Nissan, Hyundai that needs a ring flush and then could be run on this? I'm hoping it's proven that it does what they are claiming. What's 4 oil change intervals, 12,000 miles?
I want to see a VOA of this at Polaris (NOT Blackstone) to see ester content.
The supposed cleaning power is not ester based per Valvoline.
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