Valvoline Restore and Protect Fuel System Cleaner??

As noted - our AZ had two - it was hard to grab one with the B1G1 deals next to it - but can’t only throw fast balls.
In the Jeep at 46% OLM - so won’t be last tank - then oil change etc … Just put in a quart of HPL Engine Cleaner 30 anyway …

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Carguy2427 said:
Its a collaboration between the 2 companies, both chemistry departments work together when formulating new items. Both companies have expertise, so the 2 working together only better serve the end users.
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So Phillips 66 & Redline dont do that already? Im excited for this but Redline has had its performance and results for decades already with Si-1.
 
The bottle says to use at every oil change. I’ve noticed over the years that many Bitogers use fuel system cleaners just before an oil change so no residual cleaner is in the fuel system with fresh oil in the sump. I’m assuming there might be a concern of PEA ‘contamination’ in the fresh oil? Since this new product contains no PEA would it be safe to use at any time/mileage during the oil change interval?
 
gman2304 said:
The bottle says to use at every oil change. I’ve noticed over the years that many Bitogers use fuel system cleaners just before an oil change so no residual cleaner is in the fuel system with fresh oil in the sump. I’m assuming there might be a concern of PEA ‘contamination’ in the fresh oil? Since this new product contains no PEA would it be safe to use at any time/mileage during the oil change interval?
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Wondered that too - but figured I’d pour it in and follow along as we define what they mean by that statement …
Had some rough idle yesterday …
 
gman2304 said:
The bottle says to use at every oil change. I’ve noticed over the years that many Bitogers use fuel system cleaners just before an oil change so no residual cleaner is in the fuel system with fresh oil in the sump. I’m assuming there might be a concern of PEA ‘contamination’ in the fresh oil? Since this new product contains no PEA would it be safe to use at any time/mileage during the oil change interval?
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No concern of contamination, just an easy reminder for people to use it when doing an oil change is all. Every 3-5k miles would be fine.
 
Revving2Redline said:
So Phillips 66 & Redline dont do that already? Im excited for this but Redline has had its performance and results for decades already with Si-1.
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I understand the hesitation, outside of my job im an automotive enthusiast who enjoys wrenching in the garage and when you find something you know works and you like you dont trust something else until its proven. The Redline product is great, not going to say its not!
 
I have the same with BG44k. It worked where I never noticed a difference with years of use from the highly touted Techron. I thought the Techron was keeping me clean until I tried the 44k.

I don't think I ever went with just before an OCI, just usually every ~6 months and then hopefully tied with a nice highway trip running through most of a tank. That tank may also be Shell Nitro which I rarely use, my cars get 87 octane from Mobil/Exxon, Shell, BP 99.9% of the time. Maybe some random Costco or Sam's club thrown in.
 
The twice per oil change is on Techron's PDS. It states not to be used more than twice per oil change.

https://cglapps.chevron.com/sdspds/PDSDetailPage.aspx?docDataId=511612&docFormat=PDF

A follow up question.
Valvoline Restore and Protect oil was a breakthrough for pistin ring cleaning. For the new fuel cleaner that bears the same name, does it utilize the same cleaning technology as the oil, or does it just share the name? I understand it is a new technology that doesn't use PEA, and sounds like a breakthrough from what you mentioned. Just curious if it is new altogether, or shares some od the same chemistry that the oil uses for cleaning.

Thanks
 
Blizzard is holding off for now until later in the afternoon/evening. I was out with fire dept on calls so figured I'd stop at Autozone, at least the 2 closest ones. They had 2 each. The second one needs to work on shelf space for it. They had the Valvoline Restore and Protect fuel next to the Maxlife Fuel but all bottles were sideways so you couldn't see the labels. The yellow tags were on back also kind of hidden.

The first AZ had shelf space for it, I didn't see the Maxlife version but wasn't looking for it.

Now to decide when to use it. Pilot got new fuel injectors under warranty last year, not too many miles since then. I do have a 1000 mile round trip at Easter which will probably coincide with needing an oil change after anyway. Accord gets more miles daily and about 1200 miles from OCI. The rest are random miles but all have had BG44k and/or Gumout Multi System within the last 6 months.

I expecting at least a fully positive placebo effect when used if not actual improvement. 😲

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The 2 bottles per Autozone store seems to be the magic number. I just checked for it online, for my local Autozone. They were out, but when I checked other nearby stores, each one had exactly 2 bottles.

Rather than driving for it, I ordered 3 bottles online. Should be here in 4 days. I'm anxious to give it a try.
 
BHopkins said:
The 2 bottles per Autozone store seems to be the magic number. I just checked for it online, for my local Autozone. They were out, but when I checked other nearby stores, each one had exactly 2 bottles.

Rather than driving for it, I ordered 3 bottles online. Should be here in 4 days. I'm anxious to give it a try.
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Yeah. For inventory efficiency they only order 2 bottles per store.
 
Carguy2427 said:
The MAXLIFE, Complete, and Valvoline Restore and Protect use the same base chemistry but contain different detergent packages based on what they are marketed to do. For example Valvoline Restore and Protect has the strongest cleaners and most lubricants to get the ultimate clean for deposits and help increase MPGs. MAXLIFE has less of the lubricants, but more cleaners and actually a "keep clean" agent that helps deposits stay off of surfaces once cleaned. The complete fuel system cleaner is the "good" in the Good, Better, Best lineup. We suggest pricing to retailers... they dont always follow it. How we want it to be is Complete (under 10 bucks). Maxlife (around 11 bucks), Valvoline Restore and Protect (around 12 bucks). Again, we suggest... but retailer sets it where they want. Long story short Valvoline Restore and Protect is going to give you the best all around chemistry to clean and protect, while also having a friction reducer to also aid in MPG gain and help reduce wear. The other 2 additives are targeted for someone either looking for a budget friendly, but still great cleaner (complete) or something targeted specifically for high-mileage (MAXLIFE).

There is still no special fuel system cleaning sauce to clean the back of GDI valves that are not aided by port fuel injection, unfortunately. While yes, to your point if there is some overlap in timing you may get some residual clean, but nothing we would say is measurable. For an engine with direct injection only, the best way to keep valves clean is to continually add an additive like the Valvoline Restore and Protect fuel system cleaner from new (getting the average person to understand that and actually do it is tough)! If they were to do it the cleaner burn of the fuel and reduction in deposits would help keep the valves clean much longer.

The testing mentioned above (ASTM D6201) is done with a Ford 2.3L 4 cylinder engine by an ASTM certified lab, not a direct injection engine. This is the industry standard to evaluate how well an additive prevents Intake Valve Deposits. They also use this for certification of top tier fuels.
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The fuel mileage of my 2014 Mazda 3 has went down, and live data on the scan tool indicates some things that aren't quite up to snuff but not bad enough to trip a code yet. I've tried some other fuel system cleaners (Redline, ATS). And just replaced the plugs since I suspect the previous ones may be fake NGK's (another lesson learned about Amazon). The car does have 158,000 miles, and I foolishly fed it the cheapest gas I could find for most of its life (now use only Top Tier). So, got a couple of bottles of Valvoline Restore and Protect Fuel System cleaner to try, and I'll be putting in Valvoline Restore and Protect oil as well (I have always only used AMSOIL Signature Series in it). I suspect in the end I'll have to invest in a good walnut blasting of the intake valves, though.
 
Patman said:
That doesn’t seem like anywhere near enough. I would imagine that they could sell at least 5 bottles a day per store, at least the ones in larger areas
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Agreed. Considering the reputation that Valvoline Restore and Protect has already created for itself, it seems that if customers see a fuel system cleaner of the same name, that it would go quick.
 
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