Amazing cars.
Interesting take on service. If that local Tesla dealer is booked a month out, what the heck is really going on?
TFLCar experience with a damaged rear quarter on their Tesla was very interesting.
Amazing cars.
Interesting take on service. If that local Tesla dealer is booked a month out, what the heck is really going on?
TFLCar experience with a damaged rear quarter on their Tesla was very interesting.
Interesting take on service. If that local Tesla dealer is booked a month out, what the heck is really going on?
TFLCar experience with a damaged rear quarter on their Tesla was very interesting.
Reliability is not an issue with Teslas. Toyota/Lexus make super reliable cars and the best hybrids.Once the electric cars become more mainstream, there will be more refinement and better reliability. AKA once Toyota starts going electric only, its game over haha.
As are most companies.Reliability is not an issue with Teslas. Toyota/Lexus make super reliable cars and the best hybrids.
They are a formidible company, but are 10 years behind Tesla in the EV game.
The corollary question is what has Toyota been doing all this time?As are most companies.
Key question is in 10 years will they still be 10 years behind, or will they have caught and passed Tesla?
The corollary question is what has Toyota been doing all this time?
Tesla is a pure play EV company; their only focus in EV technology.
From day 1 people have made assumptions like this. Nothing close has materialized.
Even the mighty Porsche with the gorgeous Taycan fell far short of thier own expectations.
Certainly. My point is, Tesla is far ahead of the pack in EVs. Tesla is a pure play EV company.Maybe they are working on something else? There is more to mobility than a electric car.
The problem is I may have a day where I have to do 400-500 miles R/T for work. An electric car only works if recharge times are measured in minutes, not hours."15 minutes and 250 miles" is ICE think which is fine for ICE cars. EVs are different.
How about 250 miles and no waiting? Most EV owners come home, plug in and go in the house. I tell people, these cars are different; you learn.
If you are interested, perhaps go test drive an entry level Tesla Model 3. They start at $38K. 263 mile range (EPA, not what you will get), 0 to 60 in 5.3 seconds but they feel faster in real world driving.
Amazing cars.
The problem is I may have a day where I have to do 400-500 miles R/T for work. An electric car only works if recharge times are measured in minutes, not hours.
I’m not against electric vehicles. I am realistic about what I need in a vehicle. My use case is not always 30-60 miles and home that night. A few times a month I have 300+ mile days in my car, so recharging has to be in minutes.
Likewise, my on-call weeks don’t guarantee I’ll be home overnight. I might have a day where I leave at 8am, return and 2 or 3 the next day, grab a few hours of sleep and then I’m out again.
Again, I’m not against electric cars, they simply have some challenges to overcome.
My daughter wanted one, but living in an apartment and parking on the street makes that a no-go.
She bought a 2015 Prius instead.
I can see a scenario that when we retire, we would go to one all electric and one vehicle that uses a fuel that allows for quick refueling.Those scenarios with a single car household is where PHEV's really shine. You get the benefit of the BEV on the short trips and can still make the long hauls if you need to.
I can see a scenario that when we retire, we would go to one all electric and one vehicle that uses a fuel that allows for quick refueling.
oilBabe will retire after three more school years, but I'm working for benefits and funding my 401(k) for a while longer.
I thought they were off playing with hydrogen and fuel cells?Maybe they are working on something else? There is more to mobility than a electric car.
Why can't they have the equivalent of my '99 Camry? Just as boring but minus all the LCD's. I don't need a rocketship to go to the grocery store. Speedometer and gas gauge, maybe a radio for some tunes. I drove a Prius once and hated it: my Camry felt better (that's quite a knock if you think about it!). I like the concept but something put my teeth on edge--maybe I need to drive one for a month or something.My gripe about the current PHEV's is that not one of them is performance geared. At least with the BEV's, most of them are reasonably quick, like the e-tron, Taycan and of course the Tesla offerings. I'm obsessive about luxury and good performance and currently nothing in that category checks both those boxes.
Don't they make a hybrid Camry? I suspect one of those may be closer to fitting the bill.I thought they were off playing with hydrogen and fuel cells?
They did bring out the Prius. Usually we think of Asia as copying, but I want to say, they did something different there on that one. And to Cujet's point, they may still have the lead on the whole well-to-wheels thing (I haven't a clue, been a long time since I looked).
If there is a loophole for hybrids then perhaps Toyota doesn't need to do anything?
Why can't they have the equivalent of my '99 Camry? Just as boring but minus all the LCD's. I don't need a rocketship to go to the grocery store. Speedometer and gas gauge, maybe a radio for some tunes. I drove a Prius once and hated it: my Camry felt better (that's quite a knock if you think about it!). I like the concept but something put my teeth on edge--maybe I need to drive one for a month or something.
Probably. But last I knew, they swooped up the design quite a bit, gave it 17" rims and the works. Bit fancy for my tastes at the moment.Don't they make a hybrid Camry? I suspect one of those may be closer to fitting the bill.