Toyota may not know for sure what is wrong

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Well they are not 100% sure the fix is the correct one some say as i did last month it might be electrical and not just the gas pedals or floor mats..
I have driven a toyota that a customer said sometimes they had to push the pedal down half way to get it to move sometimes they just had to touch it.. I saw that on a solara and a camry and it was not a rusty bolt or floor mat it seemed electrical..
I have a Toyota Corolla in the family and i have no problems with it but it does not have an electronic throttle body.. I have seen problems with them here in the shop more than once..
But what worries me with the Toyota problem what about all the other cars that have electronic throttle controls will they begin having problems also?
I was driving with my neighbor and she kept changing lanes and she said she did not want a Toyota behind us, some people over react
 
I would suggest to your neighbor to review local newspaper and television news coverage for the area you live in and have her report back to you on the number of reported car accidents involving Toyota and their acceleration "problem." Most likely, she won't find any...

Then, I would take her for a 30 minute drive on a major highway or interstate in your area. Point out the dilapidated condition of other vehicles and explain to her that there are no legally mandated inspections of things like brakes, tires, steering, etc. Inform her about how, by some estimates, between 27 and 32% of vehicles have at least one tire under-inflated and that between 70 & 80 fatalities are caused by that per year (many, many more than ever killed or injured by this Toyota acceleration issue). Explain to her that when a car blows a tire at 70mph, it's just not the offending driver that may be killed. Discuss how a braking system works, especially about the part where most people don't perform brake maintenance until there is a problem (ie, noise). Lastly, make sure she understands that high-school level driver's education is taught to the lowest common denominator (every person you've ever thought was a complete dolt was most likely able to get a driver's license in this country).

After all that, ask her about her perspective, vehicle safety and where this Toyota recall really fits in. Hopefully, she'll have it in check.

Oh, and suggesting that she turn off the TV wouldn't hurt either.
 
Originally Posted By: oliveoil
I think it's a software issue. To many electronics.


Exactly. What was wrong with a cable pulling on a throttle? Does everything have to be computerized?

John
 
what was wrong with a cable pulling on a throttle??
Nothing, Nothing at all i guess it is cheaper to use electronics..
 
thr 06 civic si had rev hang issues when shifting at high rpms and was fixed by a ecu reflash, I suspect it To be CPU issue
 
Originally Posted By: crazyoildude
what was wrong with a cable pulling on a throttle??
Nothing, Nothing at all i guess it is cheaper to use electronics..


Not sure this is going to be true for Toyota.
 
Originally Posted By: crazyoildude

I was driving with my neighbor and she kept changing lanes and she said she did not want a Toyota behind us, some people over react


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... seems people are getting out of my way lately when I come up behind them. Guess they see that big Toyota emblem on my grill in their rear view mirror and get paranoid that the throttle is gonna stick wide open. Little do they know that Tacomas are not on the recall list (yet ??).

Hey, I like it ... get out of my way!, I'm behind you and driving a Toyota !!
 
Originally Posted By: Mustang_Cougar
I would suggest to your neighbor to review local newspaper and television news coverage for the area you live in and have her report back to you on the number of reported car accidents involving Toyota and their acceleration "problem." Most likely, she won't find any...

Then, I would take her for a 30 minute drive on a major highway or interstate in your area. Point out the dilapidated condition of other vehicles and explain to her that there are no legally mandated inspections of things like brakes, tires, steering, etc. Inform her about how, by some estimates, between 27 and 32% of vehicles have at least one tire under-inflated and that between 70 & 80 fatalities are caused by that per year (many, many more than ever killed or injured by this Toyota acceleration issue). Explain to her that when a car blows a tire at 70mph, it's just not the offending driver that may be killed. Discuss how a braking system works, especially about the part where most people don't perform brake maintenance until there is a problem (ie, noise). Lastly, make sure she understands that high-school level driver's education is taught to the lowest common denominator (every person you've ever thought was a complete dolt was most likely able to get a driver's license in this country).

After all that, ask her about her perspective, vehicle safety and where this Toyota recall really fits in. Hopefully, she'll have it in check.

Oh, and suggesting that she turn off the TV wouldn't hurt either.


+1

I'm not a Toyota fan, I think their cars are too boring for me, but IMO they're getting a politically motivated "bad rap".
 
What a mess for Toyota. Its interesting how things can get so bad so fast. I'll bet if this were 20 years ago it wouldn't have so much exposure. Information is everywhere with the internet/24x7 news/twitter/blogging etc. I guess that makes us more aware as consumers and forces companies to do better.
 
Last night when Letterman did his bit he had one that went something like this - looking into his rear view mirror "Oh no, not me, oh no ....... a Toyota is behind me!"
 
Originally Posted By: John_K
Exactly. What was wrong with a cable pulling on a throttle? Does everything have to be computerized?

John


EPS helps with fuel economy and gives engineers the ability to program steering feel. the technology's still fairly new so of course there are gonna be some glitches, but it'll be good in the long run
 
Originally Posted By: jmsjags
Originally Posted By: John_K
Exactly. What was wrong with a cable pulling on a throttle? Does everything have to be computerized?

John


EPS helps with fuel economy and gives engineers the ability to program steering feel. the technology's still fairly new so of course there are gonna be some glitches, but it'll be good in the long run



OK... just leave me out of it until it is perfected.

Until then, I'll keep my Silverado, that has a cable connecting the gas pedal to the fuel injection system.
 
25-30 years ago the running joke was "you know it's going to be a bad day when you're sitting at a light, see an Audi coming up behind you and realize that the car in front of you is a Pinto."
 
Honda has used "fly by wire" on their throttles since 03 or 04 and never had an issue. Now, their air bags have been an issue along with the dreaded transmission failures from 98 to 02, but not this specific issue.
 
Originally Posted By: mrsilv04
Originally Posted By: jmsjags
Originally Posted By: John_K
Exactly. What was wrong with a cable pulling on a throttle? Does everything have to be computerized?

John


EPS helps with fuel economy and gives engineers the ability to program steering feel. the technology's still fairly new so of course there are gonna be some glitches, but it'll be good in the long run



OK... just leave me out of it until it is perfected.

Until then, I'll keep my Silverado, that has a cable connecting the gas pedal to the fuel injection system.

If thats the one in your signature, GM trucks have been drive by wire since 2003. The Corvette since 1998.
 
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