My second car was a 1980 AMC Sprit with a 2.5 Iron Duke in it. It had a HUGE double thick radiator. It was about 40 inches wide and 124 inches tall and was about 3 inches thick. It held 3, THREE, I am not kidding you, 3 quarts of oil! I read in an old Hot Rod magazine there is a formula out there that lets you compute the increase and decrease of the oil capacity and cooling capacity inversely. Same reason 911's hold 3 or 4 gallons of motor oil!
Toyota Crown takes 0w8 oil
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I don't think Toyota is quite as good as you think it does.
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Wait, wait, wait, you mean to tell me that a mass produced vehicle is pre-designed to function in numerous countries and with a variety of applications? So, the odometer is not “programmed” from the factory for US applications only? What!?!?
I know my Land Cruiser says 0w20, of course, I run 5w30. When I was stationed in Bahrain they would run 20w50 in the same Land Cruiser, their manuals say use 0w20 - 10w30 and after that it still says you can run a high velocity oil. Those land cruisers over there have a lot of mileage running on 20w50
Well they used to at least.. LOL
No they a gliding on their reputation for the most part! That's why I have a Mazda now. Same comparable Toyota would have cost me 5K more.
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They literally had diesel engines that couldn’t make 60k just decade or so ago. And they just gave up in small diesel category.
Wow, this thread has been a spastic reaction to change. My impression when I joined BITOG years ago was that it was science based, and evidence based.
I am starting to see more dogma than evidence in some conversations.
Perhaps much thinner oils with emerging technology could have great benefits. Perhaps there s a fascinating aspect of the polymer layer being formed with boron additives that is worth pondering? Perhaps science with incentive to increase efficiency, has found a way to maintain MOFT that is not based purely on base oils physical properties?
As someone who has always been eager to acquire more knowledge about engine oil technology and powertrain design, I think this is exciting.
I’m looking forward to see where this goes and learning more. This is awesome, like moving on from carberators!
I am starting to see more dogma than evidence in some conversations.
Perhaps much thinner oils with emerging technology could have great benefits. Perhaps there s a fascinating aspect of the polymer layer being formed with boron additives that is worth pondering? Perhaps science with incentive to increase efficiency, has found a way to maintain MOFT that is not based purely on base oils physical properties?
As someone who has always been eager to acquire more knowledge about engine oil technology and powertrain design, I think this is exciting.
I’m looking forward to see where this goes and learning more. This is awesome, like moving on from carberators!
It'll be interesting to see if whether or not another automaker specifies 0w8 like Toyota any time soon. If I had to guess I'd say Honda will be next.
Gonna have to wait and see how these cars fare with 250K+ miles on the engine - that's the real "evidence". These engines are specifically designed to run 0W-8, but they may not be real heathy with really high miles on them. Others aren't speced for oil that thin, and most likely would suffer more wear as a result.
Bro, this was amazing. Worth resurrection after a year and a half.
The oil weight selection pages from the Middle East Crown Owner's manual, downloaded from here: https://www.toyota.ae/en/owners/owners-manual/
The US manual is written in a manner to try to convince the government regulators that Toyota is trying its absolute best to convince the public to use the most efficient oil possible. It really does a disservice to Toyota owners not to have a manual which looks like overseas manuals showing the range of appropriate oil weights for the ambient seasonal temperatures.
Apparently, only the weight used to obtain the official fuel efficiency estimate can be officially recommended in our backwards country.
Apparently, only the weight used to obtain the official fuel efficiency estimate can be officially recommended in our backwards country.
Actually, the manual is being written exactly the way they are required to write it based upon their EPA award letter.
Apparently y'all haven't been following Toyota quality lately. Most of what they've built the last 3 years has been junk. And their last two pickup truck launches have been disasters also. Recalled hundreds of thousands of Tundras to replace engines, new Tacomas with more issues than I care to list here, etc. Personally I never understood the hype after watching 1980s Toyotas literally rust apart, 1990s Tacomas with frames that folded like lawn chairs, 2000s V6 engines that blew head gaskets and V8 engines that ate very expensive emissions parts, etc. etc. Completely over-rated. But as it relates to this specific thread why would you trust a company with a poor track record when they say "0W8 is great!"?
I thought they skip 05 and go with 04. There’s a story about the standards folks deciding on 0w-16 instead of 0w-15.
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