There really should be a law for labeling

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There really should be a law for better oil labeling. At least if it's not gonna be an up to date spec.

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Seen this at the DG when stopping to pick up some mouse traps.

Yeah, the person should read the front and back label but why is it even available right next to current spec oils? Yeah, it could have went into a 1986 camaro. But we know that's unlikely.

I think this stuff is SF or something. Not for vehicles after 1988.
 
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Originally Posted By: splinter
Scumbags that can't find a trashcan should be flogged.


Agree on that as well. This was at the front of the store. Trash can righr there on the cement.

But, alas that is the life of a retail/grocery store parking lot.

I had a 92 s10 in high school and worked at winn dixie. I can't tell you how many times I found empty beer cases or oil jugs in the back of my truck or in the buggies. Even dirty diapers!
 
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Originally Posted By: gathermewool
I don't understand your picture.


It's a dollar general oil carton. Someone used it to top off thier vehicle.

It's rated SF and says on the bottle not for vehicles after 1988.

I'm saying they know people won't read the label or at least very closely as its doubtful that this went into a pre1988 vehicle.

It should say so on the front label for non current spec oils.

That person is also a slob.
 
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Originally Posted By: Justin251

I had a 92 s10 in high school and worked at winn dixie. I can't tell you how many times I found empty beer cases or oil jugs in the back of my truck or in the buggies. Even dirty diapers!


I appreciate you parking there because those diapers were stinkin up my mini van
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what can they even sell it... stores shouldn't carry it if it doesn't meet current spec
 
Originally Posted By: Jake777
what can they even sell it... stores shouldn't carry it if it doesn't meet current spec
free entetprize.it does have uses such as door hinges and maybe an air compressor.. The joke may be on us.it may be the latest oil but without the high price tag.

Should send in a sample to see
 
You know, for someone as cheap, lazy and slobbish as the buyer obviously is, I secretly believe (okay, the secret is out ... ) that he or she deserves to have this oil in their newer, low mileage vehicle.
 
Originally Posted By: Johnny2Bad
You know, for someone as cheap, lazy and slobbish as the buyer obviously is, I secretly believe (okay, the secret is out ... ) that he or she deserves to have this oil in their newer, low mileage vehicle.
I agree with that as well.
 
Originally Posted By: Jake777
what can they even sell it... stores shouldn't carry it if it doesn't meet current spec

I understand your point, but beware of unintended consequences. What would happen to uncertified high mileage oils from the majors? How about non-API Royal Purple or Amsoil? What about Red Line oils? Should Mobil and others yank their racing oil lines, too? After all, none of these carry current specifications.

There are two markets for uncertified oils: We have people that have the unique combination of being a cheapskate, pigheaded, and willfully ignorant and will do whatever they can to save a penny a quart. Then, we have people who have a legitimate need or desire for something uncertified, with different additive packages. Why should the latter group pay for the foolishness of the former?
 
Originally Posted By: splinter
Scumbags that can't find a trashcan should be flogged.

You got that right. What bothers me even more is the rocket scientists that drive the passenger side of the car onto the curb sidewalk area over a storm drain. Then they pull the drain plug for a quick oil change with no clean up, and leave the filter on the curb.
 
Originally Posted By: Garak


There are two markets for uncertified oils: We have people that have the unique combination of being a cheapskate, pigheaded, and willfully ignorant and will do whatever they can to save a penny a quart. Then, we have people who have a legitimate need or desire for something uncertified, with different additive packages. Why should the latter group pay for the foolishness of the former?


Thing is they probably paid at least $2.99 for that oil and they could have gotten proper, modern SuperTech for that price. The real winner is Dollar General and other middlemen.

At least it wasn't that "5-30" (somewhere between 5 and 30 weight) junk the PQIA keeps finding.
 
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: Jake777
what can they even sell it... stores shouldn't carry it if it doesn't meet current spec

I understand your point, but beware of unintended consequences. What would happen to uncertified high mileage oils from the majors? How about non-API Royal Purple or Amsoil? What about Red Line oils? Should Mobil and others yank their racing oil lines, too? After all, none of these carry current specifications.

There are two markets for uncertified oils: We have people that have the unique combination of being a cheapskate, pigheaded, and willfully ignorant and will do whatever they can to save a penny a quart. Then, we have people who have a legitimate need or desire for something uncertified, with different additive packages. Why should the latter group pay for the foolishness of the former?


Well said Garak..
I need less people telling me what to do, not more, and that's where it would end up. Penrite make some great, full synthetic, high zinc API SL oils. It's only SL because of it's high zinc content, in every other way it meets the requirement of a SN oil. Castrol make a high zinc 25W-50 heavy mineral SL racing oil too.

Freedom works both ways.
 
Correction the Castrol Edge 25W-50 mineral oil is API SG. It's "street legal" and made for old school, heavily modified, big bore, push-rod, flat tappet, competition engines.
 
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: Jake777
what can they even sell it... stores shouldn't carry it if it doesn't meet current spec

I understand your point, but beware of unintended consequences. What would happen to uncertified high mileage oils from the majors? How about non-API Royal Purple or Amsoil? What about Red Line oils? Should Mobil and others yank their racing oil lines, too? After all, none of these carry current specifications.

There are two markets for uncertified oils: We have people that have the unique combination of being a cheapskate, pigheaded, and willfully ignorant and will do whatever they can to save a penny a quart. Then, we have people who have a legitimate need or desire for something uncertified, with different additive packages. Why should the latter group pay for the foolishness of the former?


Im just talking about the labeling really. Not so much the availability.
 
Originally Posted By: eljefino
Thing is they probably paid at least $2.99 for that oil and they could have gotten proper, modern SuperTech for that price. The real winner is Dollar General and other middlemen.

Of course, that's where the pigheaded and willfully ignorant parts of the market are required.
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SR5: I have no problem with groups like the PQIA watching uncertified oils and reporting on harmful products. That's their mandate, after all. Uncertified and garbage aren't synonyms. As you say, there are legitimate products out there that aren't certified.

If someone cannot find an SN/GF-5 lube in Canada or the States when that's what they should be using, they're simply not trying very hard.
 
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