2 Valvoline Restore & Protect tests

This isn't a vrp specific problem. Can you put a camera down and see sludge?
Don't have one. I did have the shop install the upgraded valve cover on the drivers side. I'll swing by and ask him if there was any on the old valve cover and the top of the head.
 
More worried about the filter clogging up causing more harm than good. Hard to see myself swapping filters every 500 miles for a few thousand miles
I watched that one too but it's definitely outside the norm. If you want to pull the filter at 500-1000 to check it that's up to you. I might out of curiosity but I wouldn't think it's required.

You could also do a pre-rinse by using any good synthetic for 1-2k, then change oil & filter to VRP. Cut open the rinse filter and see what it's like.

How bad is the varnish / sludge looking in from the fill cap?
 
I watched that one too but it's definitely outside the norm. If you want to pull the filter at 500-1000 to check it that's up to you. I might out of curiosity but I wouldn't think it's required.

You could also do a pre-rinse by using any good synthetic for 1-2k, then change oil & filter to VRP. Cut open the rinse filter and see what it's like.

How bad is the varnish / sludge looking in from the fill cap?
Just put some Supertech high mileage 5w30 since the same guy in that video says it was just as good as Mobil 1 and I'm at about 500 miles. Just ordered some Valvoline R&P 5w30
 
I changed out my filter about 1000 miles into my first run of R&P, cut it open and couldn’t see anything to be concerned about.

I drained the oil around 3000 miles or so as winter was here in MA, refilled with R&P and will do oil/filter change in spring. Should be over 5K miles on this fill. A little over 8K total run of 5W30 R&P. The. Switching to ESP 0W30 for the long haul. Would do 5W but can’t find the 5 quart jug at walmart
 
I changed out my filter about 1000 miles into my first run of R&P, cut it open and couldn’t see anything to be concerned about.

I drained the oil around 3000 miles or so as winter was here in MA, refilled with R&P and will do oil/filter change in spring. Should be over 5K miles on this fill. I’m not concerned about the filter clogging or loading up with gunk. A little over 8K total run of 5W30 R&P. Then Switching to ESP 0W30 for the long haul. Would do 5W but can’t find the 5 quart jug at walmart
 
Okay, I went down that Valvoline Restore & Protect Rabbit Hole and found this. My 2007.5 Silverado 1500 with the 5.3 is starting to develop a lifter tick on cold starts. 121K miles. Wss going to use the Valvoline until I watched this.

If you are worried, you can get a couple cheap filters, change them early, and cut them open for inspection to get an idea of how quickly deposits are being removed.

The experiences shared in this thread by me and others and the fact that Valvoline seems to have been very conservative with the oil's cleaning properties to prevent filter clogging makes me not worry too much about it and his experience definitely tends to be the exception rather than the norm, but there's no harm in being careful.

Selling a mainstream API and manufacturer licensed oil that's significantly more capable than average of clogging an oil filter during a standard OCI with no warning or early filter change instructions and even claiming that it won't clog the oil filter because it dissolves the deposits would be a liability nightmare!
 
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If you are worried, you can get a couple cheap filters, change them early, and cut them open for inspection to get an idea of how quickly deposits are being removed.

The experiences shared in this thread by me and others and the fact that Valvoline seems to have been very conservative with the oil's cleaning properties to prevent filter clogging makes me not worry too much about it and his experience definitely tends to be the exception rather than the norm, but there's no harm in being careful.

Selling a mainstream API and manufacturer licensed oil that's significantly more capable than average of clogging an oil filter during a standard OCI with no warning or early filter change instructions and even claiming that it won't clog the oil filter because it dissolves the deposits would be a liability nightmare!
Right. They could have made it clean faster but that would have been a disaster for some engines/people.

The average person doesn't seem to be able to read well enough to even understand what is on the bottle anyway so it's best they did what they did.

Valvoline has a lot of experience with this being they developed original Premium Blue Restore oil.
 
I changed out my filter about 1000 miles into my first run of R&P, cut it open and couldn’t see anything to be concerned about.

I drained the oil around 3000 miles or so as winter was here in MA, refilled with R&P and will do oil/filter change in spring. Should be over 5K miles on this fill. A little over 8K total run of 5W30 R&P. The. Switching to ESP 0W30 for the long haul. Would do 5W but can’t find the 5 quart jug at walmart
I order mine and have it delivered. Saves me time
 
Most synthetic oil will pull sludge out. The benefit of VRP is varnish/deposits that most oils won't clean.
You mean like this? This was 4,800 ,Ike’s on DELVAC 1 ESP 5w40.

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I wish.

My 93 Rodeo looks very similar under the cover & has a cold lifter tick as well. Before I switched it over to HPL, I reached out to them for recommendations. I'm using their regular pcmo 5w40 with a qt of their ec40. It's been about 3k miles, & will be changing the filter soon. I'm doing 10k mile oci's, & top off's with their pcmo 5w40. So far no noticeable visual change looking through the fill cap, but not really expecting any yet. I was told by Dave that I would see serious improvement around 40k miles, or four 10k mile oci's. Top end heavy varnish just takes time because it gets baked on in high heat/low flow areas.

I'm curious to see what the Valvoline does in this experiment.
I would stick to 5K OCI's, not 10k miles.
 
Many people won’t believe me, but I will share my story with VRP, because i am seriously impressed with this oil.

I did an oil change this past Saturday, and put in some VRP 5w-30 in my 2001 Chevy Blazer 4.3 Vortec. First time using VRP. I changed the oil, and drove 50 miles (round trip) around a big lake, to go out for dinner Saturday night. Basically highway speed driving, anywhere from 45mph-65mph, very few stop lights.

This oil fixed the random misfire issue on cylinder 5 and 6 after this 50 mile drive. I’ve had this misfire since I bought the truck 2 years ago, and this oil fixed the issue in just 50 miles of driving, I’m dead serious. I’ve replaced the spider injectors, spark plugs, checked for vacuum leaks, replaced the whole distributor, and done everything to try to fix the misfires. Nothing helped with the misfire, until VRP went in the engine.

People won’t believe me, but I’ve verified that the misfires are gone with my topdon scan tool that can check for misfires, do bidirectional tests, and etc, and the engine runs smoother than ever. There used to be a quite noticeable vibration especially at idle due to the random misfires on cylinder 5 and 6, but now it idles crazy smooth. Never knew a 4.3 L 90 degree V6 engine can be this smooth.

Also, on the right bank of the engine, there used to be a very light lifter tick, and that’s gone too now.

No other oils I’ve used have made any difference. I’ve tried M1 0w40, Shell Rotella T6, Pennzoil, Castrol, and basically every oil you can find at Walmarts automotive section. OCI’s were always kept at 3k miles with all these oils.


I’m a firm believer in VRP. And the oil is super dark after just 50 miles of driving. It usually takes about 200 miles of driving before the oil on the dipstick turns dark like used oil. Super impressed with VRP!

I’m also gonna use VRP in my 2010 ford Taurus sho 3.5 Ecoboost on its next oil change.

Some people will say I’m full of BS, and say that all this is coincidence, but I’m just sharing my personal experience, and how impressed I am with VRP.

Tell me what yall think!
 
Many people won’t believe me, but I will share my story with VRP, because i am seriously impressed with this oil.

I did an oil change this past Saturday, and put in some VRP 5w-30 in my 2001 Chevy Blazer 4.3 Vortec. First time using VRP. I changed the oil, and drove 50 miles (round trip) around a big lake, to go out for dinner Saturday night. Basically highway speed driving, anywhere from 45mph-65mph, very few stop lights.

This oil fixed the random misfire issue on cylinder 5 and 6 after this 50 mile drive. I’ve had this misfire since I bought the truck 2 years ago, and this oil fixed the issue in just 50 miles of driving, I’m dead serious. I’ve replaced the spider injectors, spark plugs, checked for vacuum leaks, replaced the whole distributor, and done everything to try to fix the misfires. Nothing helped with the misfire, until VRP went in the engine.

People won’t believe me, but I’ve verified that the misfires are gone with my topdon scan tool that can check for misfires, do bidirectional tests, and etc, and the engine runs smoother than ever. There used to be a quite noticeable vibration especially at idle due to the random misfires on cylinder 5 and 6, but now it idles crazy smooth. Never knew a 4.3 L 90 degree V6 engine can be this smooth.

Also, on the right bank of the engine, there used to be a very light lifter tick, and that’s gone too now.

No other oils I’ve used have made any difference. I’ve tried M1 0w40, Shell Rotella T6, Pennzoil, Castrol, and basically every oil you can find at Walmarts automotive section. OCI’s were always kept at 3k miles with all these oils.


I’m a firm believer in VRP. And the oil is super dark after just 50 miles of driving. It usually takes about 200 miles of driving before the oil on the dipstick turns dark like used oil. Super impressed with VRP!

I’m also gonna use VRP in my 2010 ford Taurus sho 3.5 Ecoboost on its next oil change.

Some people will say I’m full of BS, and say that all this is coincidence, but I’m just sharing my personal experience, and how impressed I am with VRP.

Tell me what yall think!
Still hasn’t improved the oil consumption on my car ( two oil changes ) at all and I don’t think it will but I truly believe VRP works as advertised.

I believe you.

I should have changed my oil every 3K and spent a lot more money doing so and that would have guaranteed prevented my oil consumption issues, or maybe it wouldn’t have 🤔
 
Still hasn’t improved the oil consumption on my car ( two oil changes ) at all and I don’t think it will but I truly believe VRP works as advertised.

I believe you.

I should have changed my oil every 3K and spent a lot more money doing so and that would have guaranteed prevented my oil consumption issues, or maybe it wouldn’t have 🤔
I didn’t notice any improvement until the 3rd R&P 5k oci. I almost gave up. But I do think there is a point of no return on some oil burners.
 
More worried about the filter clogging up causing more harm than good. Hard to see myself swapping filters every 500 miles for a few thousand miles
With due respect to the YT video maker, the presence of sludge on the filter media is NOT evidence of it being "plugged." Oil bypassing the media is evidence of it being plugged.


It's quite absurd to conclude that one can ascertain the flow characteristics of the media by screwdriver scraping.

The only thing this video is evidence of is that both VRP and the Fram are doing their jobs quite effectively.
 
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