Originally Posted By: StevieC
Originally Posted By: Kernel Potter
It's interesting that the company that wins the 2008 North American Car of the year Award needs improvement but the company that wins 2009 award doesn't. Bias is my guess. Either way I don't think a company like Honda that in 2009 sells a V6 that calls for a $1,600 belt replacement every 100,000 miles could win anything these days.
Every car company needs improvement, including Hyundai, Toyota, Honda or whatever... but IMO no where near the BIG-3. And I'm not bashing the BIG-3 I'm just stating what I believe to be true.
Regardless if they win car of the year or not, this doesn't change IMO. Hyundai has been working hard for the past 10 years to undo all the bad choices and the inferior quality of their previous products, so has GM, FORD, CHRYSLER. The difference to me is that Hyundai has been a lot more successful at it that's all.
I speak from experience... I have seen later model Big-3's and while much better than past models they still have their quirks and things that make you think twice. I then see the Hyundai I have owned, my mom's Kia, my sisters well abused high-mile Hyundai and all have had 0 problems and only wearable parts replaced.. That keeps me believing in Hyundai, but that doesn't mean that nothing else can be good out there... I'm just waiting for the other brands to catch up to what Hyundai can offer to me. Good quality rock solid reliable vehicles without annoying quirks as a very good price unbeaten by others.
Bring me another brand that offers this and I will be the first to switch...
I've got a loaded 2008 CTS that I love. Better than any of the competition - and I did actually compare the MB, Lexus, Infinity etc just for kicks. No comparison. I've had the car almost a year and with 11,000 miles not a one issue. Great car from Cadillac. GM proved it can do it, and the same goes for the new Malibu and fullsize suv's/trucks. As the older models (and more troublesome) are replaced the GM lineup with finally be refreshed and competitive. I hope they become like Hyudai where they were junk in the 80's but excellent in the 2000's.
Originally Posted By: Kernel Potter
It's interesting that the company that wins the 2008 North American Car of the year Award needs improvement but the company that wins 2009 award doesn't. Bias is my guess. Either way I don't think a company like Honda that in 2009 sells a V6 that calls for a $1,600 belt replacement every 100,000 miles could win anything these days.
Every car company needs improvement, including Hyundai, Toyota, Honda or whatever... but IMO no where near the BIG-3. And I'm not bashing the BIG-3 I'm just stating what I believe to be true.
Regardless if they win car of the year or not, this doesn't change IMO. Hyundai has been working hard for the past 10 years to undo all the bad choices and the inferior quality of their previous products, so has GM, FORD, CHRYSLER. The difference to me is that Hyundai has been a lot more successful at it that's all.

I speak from experience... I have seen later model Big-3's and while much better than past models they still have their quirks and things that make you think twice. I then see the Hyundai I have owned, my mom's Kia, my sisters well abused high-mile Hyundai and all have had 0 problems and only wearable parts replaced.. That keeps me believing in Hyundai, but that doesn't mean that nothing else can be good out there... I'm just waiting for the other brands to catch up to what Hyundai can offer to me. Good quality rock solid reliable vehicles without annoying quirks as a very good price unbeaten by others.

Bring me another brand that offers this and I will be the first to switch...
I've got a loaded 2008 CTS that I love. Better than any of the competition - and I did actually compare the MB, Lexus, Infinity etc just for kicks. No comparison. I've had the car almost a year and with 11,000 miles not a one issue. Great car from Cadillac. GM proved it can do it, and the same goes for the new Malibu and fullsize suv's/trucks. As the older models (and more troublesome) are replaced the GM lineup with finally be refreshed and competitive. I hope they become like Hyudai where they were junk in the 80's but excellent in the 2000's.