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Originally Posted by BMWTurboDzl
Originally Posted by Cujet
Originally Posted by BMWTurboDzl
Keep in mind that towing and heavy equipment is not a target market of BEV (Battery EV). Hybrid yes.
I disagree. Ford, Tesla, Rivian, and others are all working on trucks. Trucks that will be asked to do real work.[/html]
I don't pretend to speak for CJ but I think I can answer that and its not what most people immediately jump to.What’s the purpose of this thread? What is the ideal form of energy in your opinion? Gas fo’ life, H2, fuel cell, other?
The question really isnt when well reach some numerical milestone, but more of when will a holistic package be "good enough" for some one to choose BEV over Ice.
What’s the purpose of this thread?
It was to originally started to discuss the bogus battery "breakthroughs".How much has gasoline changed over the years?
Trucks that are used as commuter vehicles.
Fully concur but I think the bolded is the intended result of a deliberate design and execution of events and circumstances leading up to that final state so they would be "ripe for suggestion" without the ability to critically think for themselves or lack the moral courage to stand up and act if they did figure it out.I'm in no way am a fan, or supportive of "good enough" being anyone else choice but the consumer, and preferably an educated consumer that understands the pros and cons of their choice, but those are a rare breed these days.
UD, the idea is to repurpose batteries in other vehicles and other purposes.Im super curious - why is a million battery important when we can be almost assured the rest of the car won't go that distance?
We dont worry about million mile engines.
Based on a month longTrucks that are used as commuter vehicles.
I'm vehemently against removal of choice.
I'm in no way am a fan, or supportive of "good enough" being anyone else choice but the consumer, and preferably an educated consumer that understands the pros and cons of their choice, but those are a rare breed these days.
I gotcha and now read your OP in a different light. Good topic!It was to originally started to discuss the bogus battery "breakthroughs".
Gasoline engines are about as efficient today as the best ones were in the late 1930's, please don't go picking terrible examples such as Chevy flat head engines. It may be interesting to note that aircraft engines achieved 34% thermal efficiency in regular use, and peaked at 40% thermal efficiency in the late '30's, the very same as the best Toyota engines today.
Like today, this was done via intelligent engineering.
UD, the idea is to repurpose batteries in other vehicles and other purposes.
“What they’re talking about with million-mile batteries is not so much that an average consumer would put a million miles on the clock,” said Simon Lambert, a co-lead investigator at the Recycling of Lithium-Ion Batteries project at the UK’s Faraday Institution, “but that you’d potentially be able to use the battery multiple times, either in vehicular energy storage or grid-connected stuff.”