In another thread, someone mentioned Toyota's announcement that they wanted to reduce costs by at least 30% by 2013 and stated that that caused the accelerator issues which were actually the result of a policy that Toyota announced in 2002. In response, I decided to mention Digital Quantum Batteries, which would theoretically allow Toyota to meet its goals while making their cars more reliable. Here is what I said:
Originally Posted By: ShiningArcanine
That is completely unrelated to this issue, but if you want to play that game, I can play it too. They can always switch to electric engines, which only have a rotor that moves as opposed to the hundreds that gasoline engines have.
The fuel line, fuel filter and fuel pump could be replaced with a simple wire to a Digital Quantum Battery:
http://www.physorg.com/news180704455.html
According to some calculations I did with some figures I found via Google, Digital Quantum Batteries store the same amount of energy per unit mass that gasoline has after the efficiency of the internal combustion engine taken into account, so in theory, they could just replace the gasoline tank with a digital quantum battery, attach a wire to it that leads to the engine compartment where the engine was replaced by an electric engine and call it a day. The radiator and engine coolant could be removed as well. All you would need to add is a simple electric heater (e.g. a resistor) for the heating system. The lead acid battery, air intake, air filter, oil filter and oil could be removed as well. In theory, the brake rotors, brake calipers and brake pads could be replaced entirely with regenerative braking.
All of those things (electric engine, digital quantum battery, wire and a resistor) are dirt cheap compared to what Toyota puts in their cars today. In fact, since a Digital Quantum Battery is just a series of capacitors, you can charge one in less time than it would take to fill a tank of gasoline. Not to mention that since so many parts are being removed, the engine compartment could be miniaturized, which would yield additional cost savings.
Doing this should remove at least 30% of the parts used in cars by weight. Problem solved.
Mechanicx asked that I start a new thread for this, so here it is.
Anyway, I made a post about Digital Quantum batteries on another forum where I quoted some numbers and did some calculations that showed them to contain the same energy as gasoline after the efficiency of an internal combustion engine is taken into account. The calculations were actually done for the Lithium Air battery, but Digital Quantum batteries claim to have about the same energy density advantage over Lithium Ion batteries that Lithium Air batteries claim to have, so it should work for them as well. Here is a quote:
Originally Posted By: "Shining Arcanine"
I have heard about Lithium Air batteries in the past, but today I saw a new article on them:
http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/56498
There were some numbers for energy storage for gasoline and for lithium-air. Assuming that a gasoline engine is 40% energy efficient, which I doubt, it seems that the two are roughly at energy parity in terms of weight, so in theory, you could make a car with these (if you had them) that weighed either the same or less than its gasoline equivalent. Considering that electric engines are simpler than gasoline engines, I assume that one suitable for automotive purposes would enable a car to weigh less than it would have if it had a gasoline engine, however, the battery by itself does not seem to have any reason to make it to weigh more, so I imagine that the worst case would be that an electric car with a Lithium Air battery would weigh the same as a gasoline car.
However, after reading the comments about the article on slashdot, I saw a reference to a "Digital Quantum Battery", which I googled and found:
http://www.technologyreview.com/computing/24265/?a=f
The claimed energy density increase over Lithium-Ion is similar to the claimed energy density increase by Lithium-Air over Lithium-Ion and it is made out of a solid state array of really tiny capacitors. I find this to be more exciting than Lithium-Air, as capacitors always have the same maximum capacity regardless of recharge/discharge cycles, so it would never need to be replaced. I think it would be awesome to have these in my laptop, my cell phone and my car, especially in my car, as even without buying a new car, I could in theory use one to replace my car's lead acid battery, which would reduce my car's weight.
What do you guys think?
No one replied.
Anyway, the defining characteristics of the Digital Quantum Battery are:
A few other thoughts are that charging stations, to avoid putting too much of a strain on the power grid, would need to have large digital quantum batteries to act as a buffer to prevent a bunch of simultaneous recharges from causing black-outs. Homes could probably use these for similar purposes, possibly also eliminating the need for a backup generator in the event of a black out. Panasonic is designing a home lithium ion battery that this could possibly replace:
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/20...y-home-use-2011
Another plus is that since cars would no longer rely on chemical reactions, they would no longer be able to explode in collisions, so crash safety would be improved by this technology.
There was talk of making propeller based planes that used nuclear power plants a while ago. It never managed to get off the ground, possibly because of 9/11, but this technology would probably allow them to substitute the nuclear power plant for a digital quantum battery that could be charged at the airport much like cars being recharged at a charging station, so in theory, we could probably eliminate the majority of our oil consumption, assuming people are willing to wait a little longer to travel around the world. The main uses for oil could shift from fuels to lubricants, plastics and rubbers, although the military would likely still need JP4 for jets and possibly also diesel fuel for tanks due to logistical issues. I believe that ships and helicopters will likely be able to switch to these batteries, but I think that it is unlikely that the navy will be willing to switch because ships tend to be surrounded by electrically conductive water.
Anyway, I think these things would allow the US to stop using foreign oil, assuming that a transition is made from vehicles that rely on gasoline/diesel to electrical vehicles that use these batteries. The power grid will not have the capacity to deal with the increased load and I do not think it would be feasible to add enough coal burning power plants to it to support the increased load, so the US will need to build new nuclear power plants, which given the recent state of the union address, is a possibility. In the long term, I find it likely that oil refineries and oil wells would shut down as the price of petroleum drops with demand, which will lead to attempts by the oil industry to kill this technology. I think this because I realized a while ago when oil industry executives were talking about how much they wanted oil prices to increase (rather than demand) that they cared more about making money than actual people.
That summarizes my thoughts. What do you guys think?
Originally Posted By: ShiningArcanine
That is completely unrelated to this issue, but if you want to play that game, I can play it too. They can always switch to electric engines, which only have a rotor that moves as opposed to the hundreds that gasoline engines have.
The fuel line, fuel filter and fuel pump could be replaced with a simple wire to a Digital Quantum Battery:
http://www.physorg.com/news180704455.html
According to some calculations I did with some figures I found via Google, Digital Quantum Batteries store the same amount of energy per unit mass that gasoline has after the efficiency of the internal combustion engine taken into account, so in theory, they could just replace the gasoline tank with a digital quantum battery, attach a wire to it that leads to the engine compartment where the engine was replaced by an electric engine and call it a day. The radiator and engine coolant could be removed as well. All you would need to add is a simple electric heater (e.g. a resistor) for the heating system. The lead acid battery, air intake, air filter, oil filter and oil could be removed as well. In theory, the brake rotors, brake calipers and brake pads could be replaced entirely with regenerative braking.
All of those things (electric engine, digital quantum battery, wire and a resistor) are dirt cheap compared to what Toyota puts in their cars today. In fact, since a Digital Quantum Battery is just a series of capacitors, you can charge one in less time than it would take to fill a tank of gasoline. Not to mention that since so many parts are being removed, the engine compartment could be miniaturized, which would yield additional cost savings.
Doing this should remove at least 30% of the parts used in cars by weight. Problem solved.
Mechanicx asked that I start a new thread for this, so here it is.
Anyway, I made a post about Digital Quantum batteries on another forum where I quoted some numbers and did some calculations that showed them to contain the same energy as gasoline after the efficiency of an internal combustion engine is taken into account. The calculations were actually done for the Lithium Air battery, but Digital Quantum batteries claim to have about the same energy density advantage over Lithium Ion batteries that Lithium Air batteries claim to have, so it should work for them as well. Here is a quote:
Originally Posted By: "Shining Arcanine"
I have heard about Lithium Air batteries in the past, but today I saw a new article on them:
http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/56498
There were some numbers for energy storage for gasoline and for lithium-air. Assuming that a gasoline engine is 40% energy efficient, which I doubt, it seems that the two are roughly at energy parity in terms of weight, so in theory, you could make a car with these (if you had them) that weighed either the same or less than its gasoline equivalent. Considering that electric engines are simpler than gasoline engines, I assume that one suitable for automotive purposes would enable a car to weigh less than it would have if it had a gasoline engine, however, the battery by itself does not seem to have any reason to make it to weigh more, so I imagine that the worst case would be that an electric car with a Lithium Air battery would weigh the same as a gasoline car.
However, after reading the comments about the article on slashdot, I saw a reference to a "Digital Quantum Battery", which I googled and found:
http://www.technologyreview.com/computing/24265/?a=f
The claimed energy density increase over Lithium-Ion is similar to the claimed energy density increase by Lithium-Air over Lithium-Ion and it is made out of a solid state array of really tiny capacitors. I find this to be more exciting than Lithium-Air, as capacitors always have the same maximum capacity regardless of recharge/discharge cycles, so it would never need to be replaced. I think it would be awesome to have these in my laptop, my cell phone and my car, especially in my car, as even without buying a new car, I could in theory use one to replace my car's lead acid battery, which would reduce my car's weight.
What do you guys think?
No one replied.
Anyway, the defining characteristics of the Digital Quantum Battery are:
- It should have an extremely high power output (higher than Lead Acid batteries) because it is really just a bunch of capacitors.
- Since it uses Quantum Effects to prevent the charges it stores from migrating through its insulator, it can store extremely high quantities of energy, which is roughly at parity with gasoline after the efficiency of an automotive internal combustion engine is taken into account if the numbers physicists provide are to be believed.
- Since it is really just an array of solid state capacitors, it can be charged much faster than an array of electrochemical cells (i.e. a regular battery), such that it could probably be charged in a few seconds if you provide a high enough voltage and current.
- Since it is really just an array of solid state capacitors, unlike a chemical based battery, it should never need to be replaced.
A few other thoughts are that charging stations, to avoid putting too much of a strain on the power grid, would need to have large digital quantum batteries to act as a buffer to prevent a bunch of simultaneous recharges from causing black-outs. Homes could probably use these for similar purposes, possibly also eliminating the need for a backup generator in the event of a black out. Panasonic is designing a home lithium ion battery that this could possibly replace:
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/20...y-home-use-2011
Another plus is that since cars would no longer rely on chemical reactions, they would no longer be able to explode in collisions, so crash safety would be improved by this technology.
There was talk of making propeller based planes that used nuclear power plants a while ago. It never managed to get off the ground, possibly because of 9/11, but this technology would probably allow them to substitute the nuclear power plant for a digital quantum battery that could be charged at the airport much like cars being recharged at a charging station, so in theory, we could probably eliminate the majority of our oil consumption, assuming people are willing to wait a little longer to travel around the world. The main uses for oil could shift from fuels to lubricants, plastics and rubbers, although the military would likely still need JP4 for jets and possibly also diesel fuel for tanks due to logistical issues. I believe that ships and helicopters will likely be able to switch to these batteries, but I think that it is unlikely that the navy will be willing to switch because ships tend to be surrounded by electrically conductive water.
Anyway, I think these things would allow the US to stop using foreign oil, assuming that a transition is made from vehicles that rely on gasoline/diesel to electrical vehicles that use these batteries. The power grid will not have the capacity to deal with the increased load and I do not think it would be feasible to add enough coal burning power plants to it to support the increased load, so the US will need to build new nuclear power plants, which given the recent state of the union address, is a possibility. In the long term, I find it likely that oil refineries and oil wells would shut down as the price of petroleum drops with demand, which will lead to attempts by the oil industry to kill this technology. I think this because I realized a while ago when oil industry executives were talking about how much they wanted oil prices to increase (rather than demand) that they cared more about making money than actual people.
That summarizes my thoughts. What do you guys think?
