This guy has a segment with a former GM engineer. It's pretty sad but not unexpected with how the industry is going. His behind the scenes experiences can make your draw drop.
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Did you forget to post a link to the segment…or?
I think this is industry wide, even in japan and europe.
Watched the videos this morning. Kind of just confirmed our suspicions
in the early 2000's, a girl i worked with had an uncle, or grandpa, or something, that worked as an engineer for GM, he told her that the Cobalt (new model at the time) was Designed to only last about 5-6 years.
No because I haven't heard the entire segment and didn't want to get flagged for SPAM
Watched the video, it’s a shame that long term reliability is near the bottom of a long list of priorities, by design. GM (and others I’m sure) are very cynical towards their paying customers.
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It is indeed a sad state of affairs.
And truly evident in the recalls of late. Not one brand seems immune, though some excel at the race to the bottom.
And truly evident in the recalls of late. Not one brand seems immune, though some excel at the race to the bottom.
You never want to see how the sausage is made, the same applies to cars.
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I watched it the other day and shared it with one of the guys that work for me that used to work in a GM factory back east. It was both sad and insightful. the amazing thin is how much we are getting charged for a vehicle that is designed to fail in a relatively short amount of time.
Most people who want to buy a house, raise a family, and hopefully retire someday can’t afford to trade in vehicles every three years so that they are always within warranty. Which really is what GM and other manufacture are striving for.
for anyone interested....here is the channel. lots of channels called "Car Guy"
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCaVCl9iRFsrxB-gl0wJ7Hqg
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCaVCl9iRFsrxB-gl0wJ7Hqg
Enshittification of all the things
I would like to go back to higher reliability vehicles of early 2000’s, but I’m not convinced like this guy is that driving a 20+ year old vehicle is a more reliable choice. No doubt it is more economical.
I would want to know if all of the employees still have all of their fingers.
Cobalts are not exactly my cup of tea, but I know that plenty were still on the road and in rental fleets past this time frame. And on your source, you say that 25 years ago, you heard from a girl, who heard from her uncle or some relative, who was an engineer that…. Consider that there might be some memory and transmission error.
I just watched it yesterday. I suspect it's not just GM, maybe they are pushing for cost a little too hard.
Recall / warranty costs will eat up the savings and anger customers (at least it would me).
The only GM we have in our stable is a 2020 Camaro, that has the recall for valve body wear.
Now I know why.
L87 6.2L engines scattering, where does it end.
Recall / warranty costs will eat up the savings and anger customers (at least it would me).
The only GM we have in our stable is a 2020 Camaro, that has the recall for valve body wear.
Now I know why.
L87 6.2L engines scattering, where does it end.
Friend of mine was an engineer at Ford, new to Ford at the time. He was at a meeting about the, then new "drive-by-wire" design throttle body. Engineering was having a difficult time getting the ball bearings that drove the throttle plate from wearing out early. They could only get it to last just outisde warranty. At that meeting, my friend spoke up because he was confused why a ball bearing would last such a short time. He had worked at GE aircraft for some of the classified fighter jet engines. He commented "We can get a ball bearing to last over an equivalent million miles, if they didn't exist like you're claiming, we would have pilots falling out of the sky!".. The head of the meeting replied "that doesn't matter if you can get a million mile bearing, it only has to last outside warranty".. He was sad he had gotten a job in Dearborn with Ford.
But there's an eye opening moment.. they don't care, just as long as you keep that money rolling in and keep their stock price high.
But there's an eye opening moment.. they don't care, just as long as you keep that money rolling in and keep their stock price high.
Thread was aimed at trucks and transmissions- but bottom line, none of the products are exactly cheap on entry for the consumer.
sure my story was a little off topic but it does apply to other parts in automotive production. Just fill in the blank for any part and it's the same story. Make it as cheap as possible which is where quality fails, and charge top dollar. wash.. rinse.. repeat...
