Tesla Truck will need power of 4,000 homes!

[SHOZ]

Pepsi makes biggest public pre-order of Tesla Semis: 100 trucks

PepsiCo Inc has reserved 100 of Tesla Inc's new electric Semi trucks, the largest-known order of the big rig, as the maker of Mountain Dew soda and Doritos chips seeks to reduce fuel costs and fleet emissions, a company executive said on Tuesday.

Tesla has been trying to convince the trucking community that it can build an affordable electric big rig with the range and cargo capacity to compete with relatively low-cost, time-tested diesel trucks.

Early orders reflect uncertainty over how the market for electric commercial vehicles will develop. About 260,000 heavy-duty Class-8 trucks are produced in North America annually, according to FTR, an industry economics research firm.

 

[pandus13]

Originally Posted By: SHOZ
Pepsi makes biggest public pre-order of Tesla Semis: 100 trucks

PepsiCo Inc has reserved 100 of Tesla Inc's new electric Semi trucks, the largest-known order of the big rig, as the maker of Mountain Dew soda and Doritos chips seeks to reduce fuel costs and fleet emissions, a company executive said on Tuesday.

Tesla has been trying to convince the trucking community that it can build an affordable electric big rig with the range and cargo capacity to compete with relatively low-cost, time-tested diesel trucks.

Early orders reflect uncertainty over how the market for electric commercial vehicles will develop. About 260,000 heavy-duty Class-8 trucks are produced in North America annually, according to FTR, an industry economics research firm.

I wonder if the big firms are using this as a negotiation tool for their own current fleet?

 

[Mr Nice]

Green Tax incentives are also a factor in clean running vehicles.

At my job any manager can request a Chevy Volt.

 

[itguy08]

Originally Posted By: pandus13
I wonder if the big firms are using this as a negotiation tool for their own current fleet?


PR stunt. Look, we care about the environment - we ordered xxx Tesla trucks. Ignoring the fact that most likely they will never see the light of day or if they do will be a very limited capacity.

 

[DoubleWasp]

Originally Posted By: itguy08
Originally Posted By: pandus13
I wonder if the big firms are using this as a negotiation tool for their own current fleet?


PR stunt. Look, we care about the environment - we ordered xxx Tesla trucks. Ignoring the fact that most likely they will never see the light of day or if they do will be a very limited capacity.


It's probably a better PR stunt than that awful commercial with Kendall Jenner.

 

[pandus13]

Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
Originally Posted By: itguy08
Originally Posted By: pandus13
I wonder if the big firms are using this as a negotiation tool for their own current fleet?


PR stunt. Look, we care about the environment - we ordered xxx Tesla trucks. Ignoring the fact that most likely they will never see the light of day or if they do will be a very limited capacity.


It's probably a better PR stunt than that awful commercial with Kendall Jenner.

The points you both made too.
I was thinking more like, the big firms, use this in talking with the truck makers, something along the lines "there is other game in town"?

 

[DoubleWasp]

I'm certain they are trying to make the truck makers feel like the future is bearing down on them in a bad way, at least in part.

Question will be if any of them are dumb enough to flinch.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
Originally Posted By: PimTac
Elon Musk is using a current day version of the Shell game to run his finances. Borrowing money using another one of his company’s collateral to purchase stock of another of his companies is fraud. Deception of shareholders by announcing pie in the sky goals and as the stocks rise, he sells. He may have a genius mind but he has ulterior motives as well.

What is the EPS of TSLA? What? There isn’t one?


Eventually his house of cards will come crashing down and all the greenies will see his fraud.


Naah. Many will insist to their dying day that he is the MESSIAH! and can do no wrong.

 

[PimTac]

Originally Posted By: itguy08
Originally Posted By: pandus13
I wonder if the big firms are using this as a negotiation tool for their own current fleet?


PR stunt. Look, we care about the environment - we ordered xxx Tesla trucks. Ignoring the fact that most likely they will never see the light of day or if they do will be a very limited capacity.





It’s pure PR. According to the Autoblog article that is linked, Pepsi has almost 10,000 trucks. 100 is 1% last time I checked. It’s insignificant. Also in the article, Tesla has 267 trucks on preorder from various companies. Besides Pepsi, Walmart, Anheuser-Busch, and DHL amongst others.

Friends of Musk making a big thing about tiny orders.

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: SHOZ
No I have never backed Musk''s timeline. I don't doubt that what he envisions is something that can be developed.

I did some checking. In most of the rural prairies, only one phase power is available outside of towns. That's going to be just fantastic to retrofit these power hungry chargers to rural bulk stations, isn't it?

Yes, I saw the Pepsi story, too. However, there are a few ways to take it. Pepsi shelled out no more than $20 million in a deposit, speculated at around $20,000 a truck, perhaps less. That's an absolute drop in the bucket for them. If this doesn't work, they can get their deposit back. If they can't get their deposit back, they can write it off and still have the green promotional value. If it does work, Pepsi has access to a lot of electricity at their bottling plants, and hauling a truckload of Pepsi daily to a Walmart isn't a big deal. I'll be impressed when I see an electric Pepsi truck pull into La Ronge, or better yet, Wollaston Lake, when it's -40, or doing the Highway 16 run.

I wouldn't try much solar battery charging in Wollaston Lake in December, though. The one phase power won't accomplish much, either.

 

[Shannow]

 

[4WD]

Oh man … just have to get him to come out of his shell …

 

[SHOZ]

Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: SHOZ
No I have never backed Musk''s timeline. I don't doubt that what he envisions is something that can be developed.

I did some checking. In most of the rural prairies, only one phase power is available outside of towns. That's going to be just fantastic to retrofit these power hungry chargers to rural bulk stations, isn't it?

Yes, I saw the Pepsi story, too. However, there are a few ways to take it. Pepsi shelled out no more than $20 million in a deposit, speculated at around $20,000 a truck, perhaps less. That's an absolute drop in the bucket for them. If this doesn't work, they can get their deposit back. If they can't get their deposit back, they can write it off and still have the green promotional value. If it does work, Pepsi has access to a lot of electricity at their bottling plants, and hauling a truckload of Pepsi daily to a Walmart isn't a big deal. I'll be impressed when I see an electric Pepsi truck pull into La Ronge, or better yet, Wollaston Lake, when it's -40, or doing the Highway 16 run.

I wouldn't try much solar battery charging in Wollaston Lake in December, though. The one phase power won't accomplish much, either.
No problem getting three phase 75kv service in the rural areas if you need it around me in Central Illinois. Many framers use it for their grain dryers.

 

[SHOZ]

Another big order.....

UPS orders 125 Tesla big-rig trucks that look as if they were designed for Batman

 

[SHOZ]

Volkswagen to install 2,800 U.S. electric vehicle charging stations

Volkswagen AG (VOWG_p.DE) unit Electrify America said on Monday that it plans to install 2,800 electric vehicle charging stations in 17 of the largest U.S. cities by June 2019. The charging stations will be located at roughly 500 sites, with around 75 percent of them at workplaces and the rest at multifamily dwellings such as apartment buildings.

 

[OVERKILL]

Originally Posted By: SHOZ
Volkswagen to install 2,800 U.S. electric vehicle charging stations

Volkswagen AG (VOWG_p.DE) unit Electrify America said on Monday that it plans to install 2,800 electric vehicle charging stations in 17 of the largest U.S. cities by June 2019. The charging stations will be located at roughly 500 sites, with around 75 percent of them at workplaces and the rest at multifamily dwellings such as apartment buildings.


Now that's a big player stepping into the ring...

 

[SHOZ]

Originally Posted By: OVERKILL
Originally Posted By: SHOZ
Volkswagen to install 2,800 U.S. electric vehicle charging stations

Volkswagen AG (VOWG_p.DE) unit Electrify America said on Monday that it plans to install 2,800 electric vehicle charging stations in 17 of the largest U.S. cities by June 2019. The charging stations will be located at roughly 500 sites, with around 75 percent of them at workplaces and the rest at multifamily dwellings such as apartment buildings.


Now that's a big player stepping into the ring...
Part of the US Dieselgate settlement.

 

[Garak]

Originally Posted By: SHOZ
No problem getting three phase 75kv service in the rural areas if you need it around me in Central Illinois. Many framers use it for their grain dryers.

It's a problem here. Remember, no one is doubting that electric trucks can work. No one says they can never be recharged. There is a lot of truck traffic in rural Saskatchewan. There are a lot of unmanned fuelling stations in this province on one phase power. Get those trucks running here, and then we'll talk. You won't get 800 mile range in our winters, and you'll have to recharge, and it won't happen in 30 minutes on our rural grid.

 

[SHOZ]

LOL out in the boon docks....

Just north of me near Joliet, IL they have built a huge rail/truck center and are building another east of it towards Indiana soon. There's more trucks around here than you can shake a stick at for being a rural area.

Prime area for electric trucks, rich in power and infrastructure.

 

[Shannow]

Originally Posted By: SHOZ

Prime area for electric trucks, rich in power and infrastructure.


Remember, at 2MW per truck extension cord, that's a LOT of power in the hub.. But as musk quoted, they'll be solar powered... There won't be any rural land for miles around them.