royal purple haters

[torrin]

ive read the [censored] out of this site since i found it a week ago awesome site.

there are a ton of royal purple haters and bashers on here.
just wondering if people actually have stories about how royal purple caused damage to there engine diffs or transmission caused by royal purple. personally i like and heard all good about royal purple from people who use it. and personally would use it over amsoil because of the nuts who use amsoil. kinda like the nuts who worship obama like a god its repulsive.

just wodering if people have experienced first hand royal purple actually causing some kind of mechanical failure. i had a 65 pontiac tempest with a 326. the oil made a tremendous difference with engine noise and knocking and performance.
the onlt negative i have 2 say is its over priced .

thanks

 

[c3po]

I think that some people do not like it because of the used oil analysis that have shown some shearing and maybe the wear numbers were not that impressive.

I would look through the used oil analysis section and unless I am wrong isn't Royal Purple a Group III oil.

 

[Bambam]

Let em hate..There isn't an oil out there that is as horrible as some make them out to be.

 

[AndyH]

My impression of Royal Purple oil (based solely on reading many posts (used oil analysis and general discussion) here on BITOG) is that the oil is overpriced and generally performs no better than many conventional oils.

Note: I have no personal experience with Royal Purple products outside of their spray lubricant that I won in a contest.

 

[94supraonchrome]

It is expensive oil, but I have used the gear oil and Syncromax with great results. I haven't used the engine oil yet, but probably will when I have some extra $$. Right now I'm going with what ever is the best deal.

 

[JonnyHotcakes]

It's funny that people talk about bad used oil analysis, but if you look the ratio of bad to good is the same as any other oil.

Plus a used oil analysis done after a single run might not be the most telling. There's a claim that Royal Purple does a good amount of cleaning, which (unless I'm wrong, please tell me if I am) would cause high wear metals, shearing, and poor tbn retention.

I would be willing to bet if someone ran it from the get go, on a clean engine (like perhaps, after an AutoRX rinse cycle) or ran it for a short interval initially and extended they'd be impressed.

I say this from what I've seen of it's use. My local police dept runs it for 15k intervals with lot's of idling and short tripping.

It's more "I heard it from a popular guy on a web forum" syndrome then anything else. Alot of the time people will repeat a popular idea to sound knowledgeable.

 

[torrin]

i agree with you . i aslo thought bad used oil analysis might actually mean the oil is doing a good job cleaning the engine. interested to see a used oil analysis on 4-5 oci of royal purple

 

[TallPaul]

Haven't looked in a while, but seems the flash point on 10w40 was rather low for a "PAO" oil. IMO it may be good oil, but seems overrated and there is better stuff avail at comprable prices such as Amsoil, for which we have excellent site reps to provide accurate information. Other than that the RP bottles would look great on the oil room shelves.

 

[torrin]

i agree with you . i aslo thought bad used oil analysis might actually mean the oil is doing a good job cleaning the engine. interested to see a used oil analysis on 4-5 oci of royal purple

 

[qship1996]

the "nuts" are not the people using Amsoil, its most of the partially educated over- zealous morons peddling it {not our site sponsers}

 

[JonnyHotcakes]

Quote:
the "nuts" are not the people using Amsoil, its most of the partially educated over- zealous morons peddling it {not


Yep. The Amsoil fans and sales reps on this site are stand up folks who recommend other products all of the time.-

 

[Liquid_Turbo]

I hate Royal purple because it's purple.

Nah, jk. A lot of oils are priced cheaper.

 

[Ken2]

Many of the people here are quite technical; Royal Purple's web site and other info tells us very little about what is in their oil and why it should be considered special other than the usual advertising blather all oil brands have.

So, why is RP worth its premium price? Is it actually equal or superior to other premium oils? I think most of the, shall we say, lack of respect for RP is due to the lack of solid info about this premium priced product.

 

[d00df00d]

Another +1 for TallPaul.

Royal Purple isn't bad. It just doesn't appear to be anything special, which means it isn't worth the price.

Moreover, they do employ some shady marketing practices. My favorite example is when they test their engine oil on a machine that's for testing gear oil. Granted, every company is guilty of some degree of shady marketing (e.g. Amsoil and Schaeffer's have used similar tests), but at least those companies continue to prove themselves in used oil analysis.

 

[dnewton3]

I don't hate or love RP, or RL, or Amsoil, or any of the high dollar top end stuff.

I think that the market place provides wide and narrow avenues for consumers with free choice. If there is a need in a niche, often it gets filled. Some people don't mind paying $$$$$$ for lubes that they percieve as the "best".

Personally, I've not see RP or RL used oil analysis that would suggest their performance warrants the very high price. They do typically perform well, but I don't see the sense in using a product that might cost 100% more, and only provide 10% or 20% better performance in a used oil analysis. However, I must qualify that statement in that nearly EVERYTHING in life has a proper, and improer, application.

The important thing to understand is that lubes should be chosen based upon a large selection of critera (OCI length, severity of use, price point, availability, etc). Only then can one make a good decision for any given application.

 

[gofastman]

Originally Posted By: dnewton3
I don't hate or love RP, or RL, or Amsoil, or any of the high dollar top end stuff.

I think that the market place provides wide and narrow avenues for consumers with free choice. If there is a need in a niche, often it gets filled. Some people don't mind paying $$$$$$ for lubes that they percieve as the "best".

Personally, I've not see RP or RL used oil analysis that would suggest their performance warrants the very high price. They do typically perform well, but I don't see the sense in using a product that might cost 100% more, and only provide 10% or 20% better performance in a used oil analysis. However, I must qualify that statement in that nearly EVERYTHING in life has a proper, and improer, application.

The important thing to understand is that lubes should be chosen based upon a large selection of critera (OCI length, severity of use, price point, availability, etc). Only then can one make a good decision for any given application.

Ferarri vs Corvette
Ferarri's cost ALOT more and don't necessarly perform better, but people still buy them.

 

[d00df00d]

Originally Posted By: gofastman
Ferarri vs Corvette
Ferarri's cost ALOT more and don't necessarly perform better, but people still buy them.

I don't think that's a good comparison. Ferraris may not be a lot faster around a track, but the general consensus is that they drive one whole heck of a lot better.

 

[buster]

well said dnewton.

 

[NHHEMI]

Originally Posted By: c3po
I think that some people do not like it because of the used oil analysis that have shown some shearing and maybe the wear numbers were not that impressive.

I would look through the used oil analysis section and unless I am wrong isn't Royal Purple a Group III oil.


Actually the used oil analysis on this site with RP for the most part, just as with the other oils, are very good. A few bad ones but you can say the same for any other brand.

The Grp III thing is a complete falsehood and one of those bogus things the haters throw out. It is Grp IV PAO.

 

[panthermike]

I agree with some of the others, if RP was a STELLAR performer, I would pay the premium for it. Unless that changes, I'll use PP or Synpower.