problem with Honda dealership oil change.

My first house in CT was built in 1953 and had floors like concrete - no bounce, no boominess, rock hard. In my current house built in 1987, if I go to the center of a room and jump up and down the stuff on the dresser shakes. Everything in the current house is to code but you can feel the difference.
There are pros and cons with old vs new construction. I'll take modern electric wiring.

My house is 20 years old. The plumbing is weak. Maybe today's plumbing with PEX and whatnot is better.
 
If I take anything to the dealer for an oil change, I'll check the oil level before driving off the lot. Of course that wont detect a leak.
 
There are pros and cons with old vs new construction. I'll take modern electric wiring.

My house is 20 years old. The plumbing is weak. Maybe today's plumbing with PEX and whatnot is better.
PEX fitting let go in a bathroom upstairs in our 2015 built house. Caused about 8K in damage. Not bad in the grand scheme of things.

No idea what happened exactly. Plumber told us he rarely sees a properly installed one fail, but...here we are. That one lasted 8 years or so, then failed. He did me a solid and went around and looked at our other fittings and said everything looked fine, so ?
 
PEX fitting let go in a bathroom upstairs in our 2015 built house. Caused about 8K in damage. Not bad in the grand scheme of things.

No idea what happened exactly. Plumber told us he rarely sees a properly installed one fail, but...here we are. That one lasted 8 years or so, then failed. He did me a solid and went around and looked at our other fittings and said everything looked fine, so ?
My inlaws remodeled their house in 2001 to the tune of several hundred thousand dollars and this past Easter a metal PEX fitting burst from corrosion. The plumber said all the PEX fittings should be redone which would require taking down a fair bit of drywall. The copper piping from 1978 is doing just fine.
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It's fine by your own measurement. Is it nice to be in the middle ? Sure, but not necessary. Of course there's also people who think it must be filled to the MAX line/mark too.

I literally always check level one day after the oil change is done-anyone can make a mistake.
I quit checking it after I DIY oil changes. In the Civic, it spec's 3.9 quarts 🙄 but I put in 4. I check the level in the bottle, double-check, and even triple-check, then dump it in. In my G35, I dump a 5 quart bottle in. I do check the drain plugs and filters for leaks and if none, it's good.
 
A TE Video of an oil change on a 2023 Accord hybrid for your viewing pleasure. At the end, I can't actually see where the oil is on the dipstick but at least he checked it.


this is my favorite part. (88 seconds)


and the butt slap at 186

 
Most, if not all, of the local Honda dealerships have been using bulk oil with a pre-measured delivery system. If that is the case with the OP, the delivery system was probably not set-up or calibrated correctly. This system is intended to minimize the risk for under or overfilling the oil capacity since the total flow volume is pre-programmed, typically for mid-point on the dipstick. While this process ensures consistency, the risk still exists for an oil change technician to select the wrong capacity (e.g., 4.5 qts. vs. 5.0 qts.) for the specific engine in the vehicle. I found this out when my Honda was overfilled by ~8 fl. oz. because the lame-brain oil tech forgot to change the old oil filter! No more "courtesy" dealer oil changes for me after that awful experience.
It is also for inventory control. Bulk fluids are the largest source of shrink in dealer parts departments. Mostly because at most locations, the parts department doesn't have physical control of the bulk fluids. The beginning of every month when I dip our tanks we are short. I post correct amounts when it is delivered, and we bill out what is supposed to be going in the vehicle. But I can guarantee free oil changes are being done on the side.
 
With respect to the bold sentence above, the second part of my conversation with the 19-year-old was kids his age suck so much at doing anything well that he should have very little trouble outperforming most of his peers with even moderate effort.
It's like when a bull is chasing you and a friend thru a field, you only have to run faster than your friend.
 
But I can guarantee free oil changes are being done on the side.
You've also got techs putting in 5W-30 when it's supposed to be 5W-20 and the customer screams bloody murder, threatens to sue them, and demands that they dump it out and "fix it". 🤔

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I hope you are right, but the added profit of using bulk oil is too much of a temptation for a dealership to pass up.
Why do you think "bulk oil" is some no-name oil, with no API rating, and non-compliant ? The bulk oil could be from Valvoline, Castrol, Mobil, and so on. The price per quart of bulk oil over 250-gallon totes is probably huge.
Bulk fluids
Does your dealership use non-branded, non-API rated bulk oil ?
 
Dealership must comply with corporate instructions or approvals necessary for engines.
While that is true, it depends on how automated things are. Even when I was back in the dealer -there were two barrels of different spec's/ viscosities of whatever GM was using around that time - and sometimes the wrong one went in. And sometimes the tech forgot to adjust the volume setting, and it got whatever the last guy set it at. And 100% of the time they didn't much care.
 
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