Passat 2.8L V6 eats 5W-30 like it's nothing!

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This forum is not only a cornucopia of info about motor oil, but a source of entertainment as well!




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I wonder why Castrol Syntec 0w-30 is not on the list? I can buy it at my Audi dealer!



Well, you see, it's a "Worldwide" list and not every Castrol Syntec 0W-30 meets VW 502. Omitting a possibly suitable oil is in line with putting a possibly unsuitable oil, such as Valvoline 5W-30, on this highly valuable list.
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To my best knowledge, the inline V6 was not available on the Passat B5 platform, which was built between 1996 and 2005. The engine in question must be the 2.8 V6 30 valve engine.
 
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I wonder why Castrol Syntec 0w-30 is not on the list? I can buy it at my Audi dealer!



Well, you see, it's a "Worldwide" list and not every Castrol Syntec 0W-30 meets VW 502. Omitting a possibly suitable oil is in line with putting a possibly unsuitable oil, such as Valvoline 5W-30, on this highly valuable list.




It is highly valuable to you, the consumer, because you can use it to protect yourself against warranty issues, even if you used, say the wrong oil such as synpower 5w-30. So rejoice
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Hehe. Looks like this thread brought out a lot of emotion from everybody.

This forum is not only a cornucopia of info about motor oil, but a source of entertainment as well!




Actually, it's not as bad as it appears. I actually like Mori.....I find some of his wry remarks pretty funny and many of his oil/VW/Audi insights to be useful. But if you are around these boards long enough, you'll see everybody rumbles occasionally....no big deal.
 
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Back to the merits of a "Worldwide" list that recommends oils that may or may not be appropriate in your country.
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To my best knowledge, the inline V6 was not available on the Passat B5 platform, which was built between 1996 and 2005. The engine in question must be the 2.8 V6 30 valve engine.




Inline VR6? I am confused. I know it is a narrow angle V, but hadn't ever heard it called an inline engine (where the cylinders are in-line).
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To my best knowledge, the inline V6 was not available on the Passat B5 platform, which was built between 1996 and 2005. The engine in question must be the 2.8 V6 30 valve engine.




Inline VR6? I am confused. I know it is a narrow angle V, but hadn't ever heard it called an inline engine (where the cylinders are in-line).
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It's really a little of both. As with true inline engines, the VR has only one "bank" of cylinders, not two distinct banks. Within that single bank, the cylinders are staggered in a V configuration that allows them to be "crammed" into a shorter block than would be the case if they were set up in a perfect line, as in a "true" I configuration engine.
 
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To my best knowledge, the inline V6 was not available on the Passat B5 platform, which was built between 1996 and 2005. The engine in question must be the 2.8 V6 30 valve engine.




Inline VR6? I am confused. I know it is a narrow angle V, but hadn't ever heard it called an inline engine (where the cylinders are in-line).
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It's really a little of both. As with true inline engines, the VR has only one "bank" of cylinders, not two distinct banks. Within that single bank, the cylinders are staggered in a V configuration that allows them to be "crammed" into a shorter block than would be the case if they were set up in a perfect line, as in a "true" I configuration engine.




I stand corrected, after IMing a VW fanatic friend I was informed that VR-6 actually stands for V-engine Reihenmotor or roughly "Inline V-6". I should've known better as I have helped him rebuild his 12V VR-6 twice now after it cooked itself following oil pump failure (which he claims is common among A3 Jetta VR6s). Is it true that they come in both 10.6 and 15 degree versions, he said this was the case but I have only ever read or heard about a 15 degree version.

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i've never heard of a 10 degree..to my knowledge they're all 15 degree with single heads.
It looks like an inline from afar.
 
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I was informed that VR-6 actually stands for V-engine Reihenmotor or roughly "Inline V-6"




At least you bothered asking. Reihenmotor is indeed the common German word for inline engine. Since the design in question has elements of V and R design it's a VR. In case you wonder why it's not called Engwinkel V6 Motor (narrow angle V6 engine), well, it sounds like a urinary problem in German.
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I was informed that VR-6 actually stands for V-engine Reihenmotor or roughly "Inline V-6"




At least you bothered asking. Reihenmotor is indeed the common German word for inline engine. Since the design in question has elements of V and R design it's a VR. In case you wonder why it's not called Engwinkel V6 Motor (narrow angle V6 engine), well, it sounds like a urinary problem in German.
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Memories of JFK at the Berlin wall.
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And that's why I said I didn't give a flip. You agree with me and yet you defend obfuscation. That makes just as much sense as a "Worlwide lis




There's another word I've never heard of; who would've known I'd be expanding my vocabulary on BITOG?
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i've never heard of a 10 degree..to my knowledge they're all 15 degree with single heads.
It looks like an inline from afar.




Two VR6s matted by a common block at a 60 degree angle = the W12 in the Phaeton (and the Bentley GT).
 
I cant believe I read through 5 pages of posts and not one correct answer for the OP.

It is a VW. That kind of oil consumption is normal. You need to check and top up your oil more often.
 
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I cant believe I read through 5 pages of posts and not one correct answer for the OP.

It is a VW. That kind of oil consumption is normal. You need to check and top up your oil more often.




Winston, based on what? Both VW and Audi "claim that 1Qt of oil consumption per 1K miles is "normal". However, I've personally found that this cop out may mask an underlying oil problem. In my case, excessive oil fuel dilution causes breakdown of the oil. Once the oil breaks down sufficiently, it begins to burn, usually starting at 2500 to 3000 miles. You can check the dipstick all you want, but at a certain point in the oil's life, consumption will jump. In my case, once a an oil capable of fighting fuel dilution was placed in my engine (RLI BioSyn), the consumption problem went away.
 
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