NTSB urges Mandate to Limit the Speed of new Vehicles to the Posted Speed limit.

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My prediction: used cars without all this nanny-state tech will become VERY popular.
I literally removed my speed limiter today. Tuning is slowly becoming illegal as well. I will say I did not defeat any emissions systems in the process of tuning the car.
 
The grace speeding is limited to 6% here and it's even lower in other parts of europe: so 5 mph seems very generous to me...
While it's probably not right, if you're only doing 8 over here it's unlikely that you'll get pulled over for speeding. Over that may be another story. I've never heard of any percentage they use for grace here.
 
While it's probably not right, if you're only doing 8 over here it's unlikely that you'll get pulled over for speeding. Over that may be another story. I've never heard of any percentage they use for grace here.
it's in the law here. it's officially in place to make up for inperfections in the detection equipment calibration: in other words, they can be 6% off.
 
Disagree… 100 percent…

It’s about the money buddy….

There’s a section of Interstate 295 in Hopewell Virginia that got $1,000,000 dollars in speed ticket revenue in one calendar year… And it was heavily policed in two locations on interstate 295 there and it was obvious they wanted / needed the money. The speed limit used to drop from 70 mph to 65 in that stretch of interstate 295… I smelled Tom foolery when I saw that speed drop… And I was right. Eventually they raised it up to 70 mph. Funny… after the speed increase… no where near as many Hopewell police on 295 running radar… Go figure.

I would bet 99.9 percent of people don’t challenge speeding tickets… Understandably so I might add.

It’s easy money.
That is a state though, not the Federal Government. The Feds dictate to the states not the other way around. The Feds do not collect money for violating speed limits.
The Federal government will threaten them with holding back highway funds for lack of enforcement and high death rates.

A million dollars is just loose change in someone’s pocket compared to the cost of enforcement or loss of highway funds.

The Feds can dictate speed enforcement nationally with one swipe of a pen, just as they do with EPA pollution requirements and Safety equipment in vehicles.
Just like those air bags, speed limiters would also reduce injuries and corresponding insurance rates. But most importantly cost free traffic enforcement of the law.
 
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Other than it being illegal according to your state motor vehicle code?

It was you who presented the question as being "not being able to".
This implied eitehr by law or safety.
I gave you a valid counter example.
Now you misdirect .

I have you an example demonstrating that the limits we currently are imposing on our drivers are the consquences of considerations other than safety.

These kind of Red herrings and misdirections are precisely the tools the political classis uses, whem pushing laws and regulations on us, that are not in anyone's interest, except their own.
 
This^^^ ALL OF THIS ^^^^

Even without my cellphone anyone in the CIA/NSA can see my truck cross 3 cameras in the morning on city streets heading towards my job. Then if they hack into our building cameras can also see me enter and exit on a whim. There is also the access card I use to enter the building which timestamps that even more. To get extra spicy if they yell loud enough at GM they can track the trucks location. We lost way back in the 90's and were given this movie to say sorry but not sorry.

There is NSFW language.

Just don’t know. every text and phone conversation you have is stored by the NSA. Every letter you receive in the mail is stored by the NSA.
Everything typed in social media by you is stored by the NSA.
Every search you do is stored by the NSA
However a search warrant is needed for them to access it if you are an American citizen IF they want to use it in court but if they don’t want to, hmmmm

Back to speeding though, speed limit or not? Do we make laws to ignore them?
I think a matter of time, maybe 20 years you car will allow you to only go as fast as the speed limit
 
I think this is a great idea. Similar to making roads narrower, which reduces speed, and makes the road safer. I’m a good driver, but it’s don’t trust everyone around me on a busy fast moving highway.
 
I think this is a great idea. Similar to making roads narrower, which reduces speed, and makes the road safer. I’m a good driver, but it’s don’t trust everyone around me on a busy fast moving highway.
It takes some time to acclimate to high speeds. Traffic on the interstates in NJ cruise along about 80 mph. The faster cars are going 90 to 110. Posted limit is 65. It's unsafe to drive the speed limit in my opinion.
 
It was you who presented the question as being "not being able to".
This implied eitehr by law or safety.
I gave you a valid counter example.
Now you misdirect .
I'm not misdirecting anything. You said:

Nothing wrong with being able to go 100mph and more if condtions warrant it.
I used to live in GE and since I commuted outside of rushhour that was almost daily speed for me.
I just pointed out that you decided that in your opinion conditions warranted breaking the law. The posted speed limit is a pretty inarguable something wrong with going 100.

And who are you and what did you do with palmermd?
 
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Just don’t know. every text and phone conversation you have is stored by the NSA. Every letter you receive in the mail is stored by the NSA.
Everything typed in social media by you is stored by the NSA.
Every search you do is stored by the NSA
However a search warrant is needed for them to access it if you are an American citizen IF they want to use it in court but if they don’t want to, hmmmm

Back to speeding though, speed limit or not? Do we make laws to ignore them?
I think a matter of time, maybe 20 years you car will allow you to only go as fast as the speed limit
They don't store that much. They store the metadata that shows that the transmission took place. The don't record the calls. That's too much data. They'd have to actively be doing the traditional "phone tapping" to actually save that data. There's not enough bandwidth in the world to record every phone call that takes place. From my understanding the actual text data is still too much, but it can be accessed further from the provider, though the NSA does see that a message was sent.

Sure, lets have speed limits. The problem is laws only keep honest people honest. I don't drive illegal speeds in daily driving, but I didn't modify my car to only drive the speed limit. There's the proper time and place for it and a busy public road isn't the place for an exhibition of speed.
 
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It's a slippery slope. We have pro-Palestine rallies happing now where pro-Hamas propaganda is being preached, attended by people representing groups that are expressly forbidden from operating in Canada, and these are seemingly taking place with impunity. Selective enforcement breeds resentment, which is one of the reasons we are seeing signs of a Federal version of the minivan party on the horizon. The population turning on an administration in such a dramatic fashion is a direct result of the divisive policies and actions undertaken. Idiotic slogans and tag lines eventually get old. People are tolerant of directionless government preaching endlessly about everything "progressive" when times are good, but when that goes south, suddenly having the government version of the Kardashians running the show is an apparent and alarming liability.

If you are going to declare a state of emergency over being inconvenienced by a predominantly peaceful occupation of blue-collar folks who, right or wrong, feel that government is overreaching, then you sure as hell better be willing to do the same when the bloody ISIS flag is being flown at protests in Toronto, or you look like a rudderless ship of overt wokeness scared to death of taking any sort of action against a group that isn't working-class white people.
I don't really care what they are protesting for or against, there are idiots for every cause and of every race waving some flag offensive to someone during a march or whatever. Have your protest, get your point across and then leave.
But once they start encamping on your neighborhood and city for weeks, and making it clear they aren't going to leave until they get their way, I think locking up their money is the nice way to help them decide to leave peacefully. In many countries that really do have a dictatorship, having their bank accounts frozen would be the least of their worries.
If you don't like the government or the rules around elections or how the parliament works, then get involved and get out and vote. And if you don't like what you get for governments after that, then either accept that's how democracy works and deal with it like adults, have reasonable protests, or leave.
 
When someone gets behind me that wants to go faster than I'm going I get out of his way. I don't run into this situation often because I stay in the right lane except to pass. Furthermore, I drive with my mirrors as much as the windshield and when I see someone approaching at a high rate of speed I get out of their way well in advance. I don't see any point in creating a road rage incident.
I wish it were always that easy. Most of the time I run into these situations on two lane roads with no shoulder to pull off of. I am stuck driving with no place to go but forward. And yes on multiple lane highways I get out of the way. Not interested in creating an incident.
 
Looking at where Germany is compared to the USA on this chart has me thinking speed limits aren't the issue:
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Germany doesn’t have an autobahn by every school and through every neighborhood.

The real speeds and miles traveled per vehicle are significantly lower in Germany.



This isn’t pro or con autobahn, just the reality that most Germans don’t drive 99% autobahn and when they do average speed is still 81mph, which I’m told is very slow in Texas


Germans have more common sense than Mericans , if a inter continental autobahn were finished in the US 30 seconds later this would happen as every rusted out beater with bald snow tires gets modded to go 200mph with broken tie rods

 
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That is a state though, not the Federal Government. The Feds dictate to the states not the other way around. The Feds do not collect money for violating speed limits.
The Federal government will threaten them with holding back highway funds for lack of enforcement and high death rates.

A million dollars is just loose change in someone’s pocket compared to the cost of enforcement or loss of highway funds.

The Feds can dictate speed enforcement nationally with one swipe of a pen, just as they do with EPA pollution requirements and Safety equipment in vehicles.
Just like those air bags, speed limiters would also reduce injuries and corresponding insurance rates. But most importantly cost free traffic enforcement of the law.


Doesn’t matter….

Money is money…

1 million dollars was a lot to that city… and they got it didn’t they…

You do t think Hopewell didn’t want that money ???

Of course they did…

Using a federal interstate highway to do it…

The FBI or ATF ain’t pulling over speeding people on the interstate system.
 
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