NTSB urges Mandate to Limit the Speed of new Vehicles to the Posted Speed limit.

[priler]

"safety", "convenience" and "saving the planet" is how they will use our own money(not theirs) to create the chains with which they will enslave us all. Way too many people still think that the ideas they have are their own but they are not, they have been placed there going back even decades. The Club Of Rome book The Limits To Growth comes immediately to mind and many others including their own documents. It seems like one thing but is actually something different and really nothing to do with safety or saving anything, in fact it will destroy more rather than save.

Psychopaths all.

 

[ragtoplvr]

Say is is snowing on a 20 mph street. To get going I need to spin the tires at 50 mph. My speed is 5 mph. Do I get a ticket or does it limit the spin speed to 20 mph and I am stuck.
Rod

 

[Soft Cars]

"safety", "convenience" and "saving the planet" is how they will use our own money(not theirs) to create the chains with which they will enslave us all. Way too many people still think that the ideas they have are their own but they are not, they have been placed there going back even decades. The Club Of Rome book The Limits To Growth comes immediately to mind and many others including their own documents. It seems like one thing but is actually something different and really nothing to do with safety or saving anything, in fact it will destroy more rather than save.

Psychopaths all.

Their final goal is total control of all the resources on the planet and in order to do that they must have total control of every human.

 

[priler]

yep.

 

[edyvw]

A lot of people in this thread need hobby, urgently!!!

 

[DuckRyder]

"safety", "convenience" and "saving the planet"

I think Sir Edmund Burke said something.

 

[priler]

So did Ben Franklin.

 

[Mainia]

Maybe they should ban alcohol......

Good idea, and pull back all the legal weed. Then ban prostitution too. Yet they want control of your kids. A certain group wants to control ALL OF YOU. If I can not have my quick car, they shouldn't get their stuff either. We can all live in a Utopian totalitarian world of control. While we are at it, mandate only four part #s of oil for automobiles, and two part #s for diesel, period. This of course is only for North America, and Europe that gets these "edicts".

 

[walterjay]

When the rollout of new cars with speed limiters is rolled out we will see an increase of road rage. Idiots behind cars doing only the speed limit or a few mph over are going to freak out with anger. Heck a little while back I was doing 10 over the limit and the guy in back was so angry I thought he would ram me. He finally passed me on a downhill approaching 100 mph.

 

[bbhero]

I dont know, I dont think Washington cares too much about individual states I am sure they can spend incentive money to make roads safer to those states in other ways.. Also police departments are stretched to the max and understaffed. Furthermore MANY police officers lives will be saved and they can work on more serious work.

Disagree… 100 percent…

It’s about the money buddy….

There’s a section of Interstate 295 in Hopewell Virginia that got $1,000,000 dollars in speed ticket revenue in one calendar year… And it was heavily policed in two locations on interstate 295 there and it was obvious they wanted / needed the money. The speed limit used to drop from 70 mph to 65 in that stretch of interstate 295… I smelled Tom foolery when I saw that speed drop… And I was right. Eventually they raised it up to 70 mph. Funny… after the speed increase… no where near as many Hopewell police on 295 running radar… Go figure.

I would bet 99.9 percent of people don’t challenge speeding tickets… Understandably so I might add.

It’s easy money.

 

[bbhero]

When the rollout of new cars with speed limiters is rolled out we will see an increase of road rage. Idiots behind cars doing only the speed limit or a few mph over are going to freak out with anger. Heck a little while back I was doing 10 over the limit and the guy in back was so angry I thought he would ram me. He finally passed me on a downhill approaching 100 mph.

Great post ^^^^^^^^^^^

Man I drove on interstate 695 around Baltimore in 2013… I was going 68 to 70 mph in that STUPID 55 mph speed zone… I was in the way massively. I thought I was on the Filming of another Fast and Furious movie… It’s was horrible until I got on interstate 83 heading north. Then it was a great drive from there northward to Vermont.

 

[wag123]

I thought this is significant enough news to start a new thread.
The technology is here, Heck I bet every EV on the market can be speed limited. I will go further and bet Tesla can to it with an other the air update.
Only makes sense. The new EVs are massively powerful, compact cars with 300+ horsepower, crazy acceleration times.

It may take decades or maybe a decade but I think it will happen simply because no one can come up with a reason why it shouldn't.
Wow, just think of all the lives saved. Im not a person who likes all this stuff limiting our so called freedoms but I have thrown in the towel on that *LOL* So bring it on. Yes, its ok to flame me, its not like I am a proponent but I read these crazy stories and even threads in here about the crazy speed and acceleration times and well, Im not so sure one can make an argument against it. I mean, the speed limit is the limit, right?

I can give them at least one very good reason why it shouldn't happen, I will never buy a vehicle that has this limitation. I know many other people who won't either, so there are several more reasons.

Exactly my first thought, you would rarely be able to pass unless it’s a stationary object or a buggy.

The meme of the 2 big rigs trying to pass for 12 hours straight where 1 is .1mph faster would become reality

It is not a meme. It IS reality. The big trucking companies are already doing this with their fleets, and it is causing chaos on the Interstate highways. Why do you think that it takes 5-6 miles for one truck to pass another on level ground? It shouldn't take a semi with 500 or 600 hp so long to make a pass unless their speed is being limited. This is also causing semis to change lanes in front of faster moving traffic so they don't get caught behind another truck that is going 1 mph slower, heaven forbid. Every time I take a road trip I see a lot of this kind of behavior.

 

[bbhero]

If you can be tracked and your information sold, then you'll make a good commodity for some large corporation. I think the one big benefit that gas station chains will see with EVs beyond just getting people in the door to buy snacks and drinks is user data. No different then how we use our phones and computers, especially complaining about it on the internet.

This is a case in point where both points have solid potential to be valid… Desire for control and power over other people and commercial interests and information desired as well and utilized.

 

[walterjay]

Great post ^^^^^^^^^^^

Man I drove on interstate 695 around Baltimore in 2013… I was going 68 to 70 mph in that STUPID 55 mph speed zone… I was in the way massively. I thought I was on the Filming of another Fast and Furious movie… It’s was horrible until I got on interstate 83 heading north. Then it was a great drive from there northward to Vermont.

I avoid the 695 beltway if at all possible. It is one very unsafe road. Routinely see people driving 90 mph and weaving in and out of traffic.

 

[wag123]

When the rollout of new cars with speed limiters is rolled out we will see an increase of road rage. Idiots behind cars doing only the speed limit or a few mph over are going to freak out with anger. Heck a little while back I was doing 10 over the limit and the guy in back was so angry I thought he would ram me. He finally passed me on a downhill approaching 100 mph.

When someone gets behind me that wants to go faster than I'm going I get out of his way. I don't run into this situation often because I stay in the right lane except to pass. Furthermore, I drive with my mirrors as much as the windshield and when I see someone approaching at a high rate of speed I get out of their way well in advance. I don't see any point in creating a road rage incident.

 

[Torrid]

This is a case in point where both points have solid potential to be valid… Desire for control and power over other people and commercial interests and information desired as well and utilized.

It's a lot of incentive to make money.

 

[MCompact]

NHTSA proposed a speed governor on new cars in the early ‘70s. The proposal generated a huge number of comments, the vast majority being against it. I don’t think any other NHTSA proposed regulation has generated a larger response.

 

[Torrid]

NHTSA proposed a speed governor on new cars in the early ‘70s. The proposal generated a huge number of comments, the vast majority being against it. I don’t think any other NHTSA proposed regulation has generated a larger response.

We like to go fast!

 

[dnewton3]

My prediction: used cars without all this nanny-state tech will become VERY popular.

 

[Jetronic]

imho to err, is human. Even with speed cams, at least in Phila and MD, there is a threshold where at 11 mph, no ticket, 12 mph, ticket. That's generous in a 35, or even 45 or 55. 5 might be cutting it close due to human and speedo error. I can't see the logic that would say, let the car decide and it cannot exceed the speed limit. If I'm running late, I may need to go a little faster. Maybe 6-7 over the limit. Maybe 10.

The grace speeding is limited to 6% here and it's even lower in other parts of europe: so 5 mph seems very generous to me...