NTSB urges Mandate to Limit the Speed of new Vehicles to the Posted Speed limit.

[Thermo1223]

The tracking is happening, no doubt. It's not as personal or directed as many want to believe if they aren't specifically looking for you. I'm not sure how this is gaslighting. Almost all tracking is to sell your information for advertising purposes, meaning those tracking want you to travel and spend money. Those trying to stop you are when you need to be found for other, usually nefarious purposes and the authorities would like to have a word with you.

I don't always drive an EV, but I do always have a cell phone with me. Someone knows where I am at all times. When I'm in the situation where my phone has to be off, the people that require me to have my phone off know exactly where I'm at. I probably have 5 cameras on me at all times in those cases. This is the way of the world. It's not going away. The big fight years back to stop it was done before it started. We lost. Working for the railroad is like a Black Mirror episode actually.

This^^^ ALL OF THIS ^^^^

Even without my cellphone anyone in the CIA/NSA can see my truck cross 3 cameras in the morning on city streets heading towards my job. Then if they hack into our building cameras can also see me enter and exit on a whim. There is also the access card I use to enter the building which timestamps that even more. To get extra spicy if they yell loud enough at GM they can track the trucks location. We lost way back in the 90's and were given this movie to say sorry but not sorry.

There is NSFW language.

 

[k1xv]

If this would limit your maximum speed when passing a vehicle on a country two lane road, it would actually increase danger by impeding your ability to complete your pass quickly and safely.

 

[Rmay635703]

If this would limit your maximum speed when passing a vehicle on a country two lane road, it would actually increase danger by impeding your ability to complete your pass quickly and safely.

Exactly my first thought, you would rarely be able to pass unless it’s a stationary object or a buggy.

The meme of the 2 big rigs trying to pass for 12 hours straight where 1 is .1mph faster would become reality

 

[Torrid]

Exactly my first thought, you would rarely be able to pass unless it’s a stationary object or a buggy.

The meme of the 2 big rigs trying to pass for 12 hours straight where 1 is .1mph faster would become reality

Oh there wouldn't be passing. No way that would be allowed. lol

 

[dumkid]

Another problem I can see is traffic would always be horrible. There wouldn't be a fast lane anymore (nobody's going fast) so everyone would get stuck behind the one oversized load truck that can't go the speed limit

 

[Hermann]

Never happen would cut off major revenue stream - speed enforcement is not about safety - it is about money.

Not around here. It is rare if you see a speed trap or someone even pulled over. It's off to the races here. You also can run red lights right in front of cops. Say that 2 days ago on Saturday.

 

[JohnnyG]

My car has a button for that. It can read speed limit signs and respond accordingly.
That button was turned of after the first 5 miles of driving, never to be activated again! VERY UNSAFE!

 

[AZjeff]

Limiting the people's mobility has always been the desire of tyrants and Oligarchs.

Certainly not if favor of any active control over private vehicles but wondering how not being able to go 100mph is limiting people's mobility?

 

[fantastic]

If they implement mandatory speed limited vehicles, the penalty for speeding in uncontrolled cars will be severe. The ability to register and drive them legally will be phased out. DeGrasse Tyson said very recently and I concur, that similar to when cars displaced horses, people set up horse riding areas. You can ride horses today and many people so. But not on public roads. The same thing will happen with cars. You can drive with no controls on tracks in the future. Not on public roads. I hope to live long enough to see this because by then I'll be elderly and could use the autonomous driving to maintain my independence.

I've never wanted the ability to drive cross country untracked. No cell phone, no EZ Pass. I'm not on the run from the authorities.

While perhaps an unpopular opinion I'm happy to see some critical thinking in the post.

 

[edhackett]

If this would limit your maximum speed when passing a vehicle on a country two lane road, it would actually increase danger by impeding your ability to complete your pass quickly and safely.

Washington State traffic law specifically allows exceeding the speed limit while passing vehicles traveling less than the speed limit on two lane roads.

Ed

 

[OVERKILL]

That's what they did in china. There was a pro democracy protest a few years ago the commies used geo tracking on phones to figure out who traveled outside their designated area to the protest area and froze all those peoples bank accounts. Then you just had to report to a gulag or reeeeeeducation camp to have your accounts unfrozen.

That's what they did in Canada. When we had the trucker convoy in Ottawa protesting the lockdowns, they froze people's bank accounts.

 

[brianl703]

Exactly my first thought, you would rarely be able to pass unless it’s a stationary object or a buggy.

VDOT has been removing passing zones. Nothing has changed, there isn't a visibility problem that didn't exist before, it's just that someone at VDOT presumably thinks that passing zones are unsafe.

 

[SHOZ]

And you think cameras can't read your license plate number to track you?

They are tracking your face. Soon to be required for TSA regulated airplane rides. Illinois has a law that stands in the way though as far as use of biometric data. TSA probably just say see you later if you don't like it.....

 

[IndyIan]

I would be fine with absolute vehicle speed limiters at something reasonable, transport trucks have had them at ~65mph for a decade here with no negative issues. The odd time you'll get two ignorant ones passing each other at a snails pace, but its pretty rare really, and I don't schedule my drives for a 70mph average speed, so I'm fine with it.
Setting the absolute limiter for cars to 75-80mph would be OK with me and well over any legal limit.

Varying the speed limiter by vehicle location is a bit trickier and open to hacking and potentially government over stepping its authority. In this digital age I'm not 100% opposed to more government oversight and potentially intervention, but there also has to be matching public transparency and oversight when these powers are used.

 

[alarmguy]

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With an ICE vehicles paying cash, I can theoretically make my way across the country untracked.
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Thats impossible.
Cameras everywhere are reading your license plates (tags) at almost any significant bridge and every stoplight. Gosh and that is the tip of the iceberg.
The cameras at many stop lights so good that they already are scanning your face behind the windshield and that of your passenger.

I do agree though that EVs are taking it to a high level then every before. But this is the future for all vehicles.

Im sure by now all Americans fully understand and accept that even their household mail outside envelope is scanned by the post office before you receive it.

 

[loneryder]

Whatever the intention, they will always find a way to abuse it for control.

 

[brianl703]

Cameras everywhere are reading your license plates (tags) at almost any significant bridge and every stoplight. Gosh and that is the tip of the iceberg.
The cameras at many stop lights so good that they already are scanning your face behind the windshield and that of your passenger.

Most of the cameras you see at a stop light are for vehicle detection and are not capable of seeing your license plate, let alone scanning your face. They are fixed in position and do not have the resolution required.

Around here some stop lights have a ptz (pan/tilt/zoom) camera. Those cameras are publicly viewable on the Virginia 511 website. You can see the quality of the picture they deliver there.

 

[02SE]

This seems appropriate.

 

[alarmguy]

Most of the cameras you see at a stop light are for vehicle detection and are not capable of seeing your license plate, let alone scanning your face. They are fixed in position and do not have the resolution required.

Around here some stop lights have a ptz (pan/tilt/zoom) camera. Those cameras are publicly viewable on the Virginia 511 website. You can see the quality of the picture they deliver there.

This is not correct.
What is available to the public you may not be able to view, absolutely able to view faces and have been for a long time now

License plate readers are all over the place as well. Does that mean everywhere? No but there is no way you could drive across the country paying cash thinking you cannot be detected.

Every time I drive in and out of my community, a windshield tag a lifts the gate and my license plate is scanned.

Most automated car washes where you buy monthly subscriptions scan your license plates. You can be The same as taking place on every major bridge not necessarily every street like corner.

I can see the license plate scanner on the small bridge crossing over the intercoastal waterway in North Myrtle Beach

There is countless information online, but just for the heck of it here is one:

“When camera imagery is run through FRT, the NYPD is able to track every New Yorker’s face as they move through the city.”

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2021/06/scale-new-york-police-facial-recognition-revealed/

Unrelated to stoplights, but related to the OP it’s impossible to go coast to coast with our cameras, picking up your face

Tampa 2021 Super Bowl facial recognition was used in the stadium to arrest wanted criminals of whom just happen to be going to the football game

https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/14/...al-recognition-civil-rights-organizations-ban

 

[oil pan 4]

That's what they did in Canada. When we had the trucker convoy in Ottawa protesting the lockdowns, they froze people's bank accounts.

Yeah I was saving that Incase I got a "it would never happen here" or "only communist/dictators do that" type answer.