New Valvoline Oil

slo town said:
I could have sworn you made mention somewhere about seeing clean areas forming inside the oil fill area, presumably because of the R&P.

As I mentioned early on this thread I was trying it in our bought new by us, nice weather, exceptionally well maintained, and respectfully driven 255K mile Honda Element (I was going to run three 3K OCIs with filter changes each time).

Anyway, while closing up the garage tonight I thought of this thread. I removed the oil filler cap to find this. For years this metal baffle has looked varnished. These are not funnel marks. This is new since putting in R&P. The oil has 1,200 miles on it. I know this car inside and out and those "marks" are new.

See the little clean areas that seem to be forming? The side of the baffle gets no direct splash, but even with it not being splashed, is R&P cleaning it? If so I can't I can't imagine what it might be doing in areas with high flows, direct splash, and friction.

Weird, eh?

Scott

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Yep. I posted in another R&P thread. This was after 4 days/54 miles

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slo town said:
I could have sworn you made mention somewhere about seeing clean areas forming inside the oil fill area, presumably because of the R&P.

As I mentioned early on this thread I was trying it in our bought new by us, nice weather, exceptionally well maintained, and respectfully driven 255K mile Honda Element (I was going to run three 3K OCIs with filter changes each time).

Anyway, while closing up the garage tonight I thought of this thread. I removed the oil filler cap to find this. For years this metal baffle has looked varnished. These are not funnel marks. This is new since putting in R&P. The oil has 1,200 miles on it. I know this car inside and out and those "marks" are new.

See the little clean areas that seem to be forming? The side of the baffle gets no direct splash, but even with it not being splashed, is R&P cleaning it? If so I can't I can't imagine what it might be doing in areas with high flows, direct splash, and friction.

Weird, eh?

Scott

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They claim the oil will clean anything it touches. 🤷‍♂️
 
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Now that I see those again, I don't see how any oil could have much effect on that area especially after 54 miles. I now suspect the crud was shifted simply from taking the cap on and off, which clearly has not been done much in the past.

JMO.
 
KCJeep said:
Now that I see those again, I don't see how any oil could have much effect on that area especially after 54 miles. I now suspect the crud was shifted simply from taking the cap on and off, which clearly has not been done much in the past.

JMO.
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That was my belief too. But then I saw what R&P *seemed* to be doing to our Element after just 1,200 miles.

Scott
 
KCJeep said:
Now that I see those again, I don't see how any oil could have much effect on that area especially after 54 miles. I now suspect the crud was shifted simply from taking the cap on and off, which clearly has not been done much in the past.

JMO.
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I don't think so. Before i changed the oil, I tried scraping it and nothing moved. Plus, the cap doesn't feel like it's touching it when I threaded it on.
 
I'm just going to post the results I see. I'm sure some people will find a reason to dispute what, if any, results we have (or dont). I'm just as interested as anybody else and have nothing to gain financially or otherwise. This isn't even my car. It's purely an experiment on my end as I change my brother's oil.

This oil is apparently changed every 6ish months according to my dad, but he took it to an express lube place. So who knows.
 
Fa24wrx said:
I'm just going to post the results I see. I'm sure some people will find a reason to dispute what, if any, results we have (or dont). I'm just as interested as anybody else and have nothing to gain financially or otherwise. This isn't even my car. It's purely an experiment on my end as I change my brother's oil.

This oil is apparently changed every 6ish months according to my dad, but he took it to an express lube place. So who knows.
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Fa24wrx said:
I don't think so. Before i changed the oil, I tried scraping it and nothing moved. Plus, the cap doesn't feel like it's touching it when I threaded it on.
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It could go either way - and I’m pretty sure it will 😶
 
Fa24wrx said:
Yep. I posted in another R&P thread. This was after 4 days/54 miles

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Impossible. It is all just a big marketing gimmick. No product could ever work as advertised. High-speed Internet, probably actually slow-speed dial up. Cold beer, probably warm and skunky ginger ale. Ground beef, probably just shredded chicken. Everything is just a big bamboozle.
 
slo town said:
I could have sworn you made mention somewhere about seeing clean areas forming inside the oil fill area, presumably because of the R&P.

As I mentioned early on this thread I was trying it in our bought new by us, nice weather, exceptionally well maintained, and respectfully driven 255K mile Honda Element (I was going to run three 3K OCIs with filter changes each time).

Anyway, while closing up the garage tonight I thought of this thread. I removed the oil filler cap to find this. For years this metal baffle has looked varnished. These are not funnel marks. This is new since putting in R&P. The oil has 1,200 miles on it. I know this car inside and out and those "marks" are new.

See the little clean areas that seem to be forming? The side of the baffle gets no direct splash, but even with it not being splashed, is R&P cleaning it? If so I can't I can't imagine what it might be doing in areas with high flows, direct splash, and friction.

Weird, eh?

Scott

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An update to my above post ^^^^, which was after just 1,200 miles of using Valvoline R&P for the first time in an exceptionally well cared for 250K miles plus Honda Element with a K24 engine (500 mile first, then 1,500, then 3,000, then 5,000, then 5K every since. Either Castrol Edge Black Bottle or Gold Bottle for the life of the of the vehicle so far.

The following picture is after 1,700 miles on the second oil change of R&P. This baffle has been vanished for as long as I remember because it gets no direct oil splash.

Compared to the first picture you can see R&P is cleaning noticeably, even in an area I consider hard to clean.

For the third change, which I did this morning, I'll run it about 2,500 miles.

FWIW,

Scott

Edit: For grins I did a compression test today. Warm engine. Specs from the factory service manual for new engine is 185 psi; for "serviceable engines" no more than 28 psi difference from high to low, and no less than 135 psi. For our Element #1 175, #2 172, #3 178, #4 185. But no means am I saying this is because of R&P. Rather, I am 100% confident it's because of my meticulous maintenance, my respectful use of the vehicle, and the K24 engine itself. At any rate, I think the results are remarkable given the engine had 254,096 miles on it when I tested it this morning. Hail the mighty K24!!!

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slo town said:
An update to my above post ^^^^, which was after just 1,200 miles of using Valvoline R&P for the first time in an exceptionally well cared for 250K miles plus Honda Element with a K24 engine (500 mile first, then 1,500, then 3,000, then 5,000, then 5K every since. Either Castrol Edge Black Bottle or Gold Bottle for the life of the of the vehicle so far.

The following picture is after 1,700 miles on the second oil change of R&P. This baffle has been vanished for as long as I remember because it gets no direct oil splash.

Compared to the first picture you can see R&P is cleaning noticeably, even in an area I consider hard to clean.

For the third change, which I did this morning, I'll run it about 2,500 miles.

FWIW,

Scott

Edit: For grins I did a compression test today. Warm engine. Specs from the factory service manual for new engine is 185 psi; for "serviceable engines" no more than 28 psi difference from high to low, and no less than 135 psi. For our Element #1 175, #2 172, #3 178, #4 185. But no means am I saying this is because of R&P. Rather, I am 100% confident it's because of my meticulous maintenance, my respectful use of the vehicle, and the K24 engine itself. At any rate, I think the results are remarkable given the engine had 254,096 miles on it when I tested it this morning. Hail the mighty K24!!!

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Looks like progress!
 
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