New Valvoline Extended Formula.
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wemay
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It's been on the website for about a weeks now. 
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/t...xtended-protection.338757/page-2#post-5708761
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/new-valvoline-extended-protection-motor-oil.338854/
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/t...xtended-protection.338757/page-2#post-5708761
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/new-valvoline-extended-protection-motor-oil.338854/
It was all started by thinking too much of $$$!
But Mobil advertises those as longer OCI's. After visiting the Valvoline site and reading the info it sounds more like they're advertising adding more miles to your engine's life, big difference if you ask me.
"Valvoline Extended Protection Full Synthetic Motor Oil provides the ultimate performance designed to extend the life of your engine."
Mobil 1 Extended Performance 5W-30 advanced full synthetic motor oil is designed to deliver outstanding engine protection and protect critical engine parts for up to 20,000 miles between oil changes.*
They both probably do a great job of making an engine last a long time and keeping it clean. But I doubt the Valvoline would stand up to 20k miles as well, given the likely lack or less amount of PAO. Even so, you'll never see me run M1 EP 20k or any other oil for that matter. Even M1 EP is too cheap for me to run it to an interval with which I am uncomfortable.
I'd enthusiastically run either of these oils to the 7500 or so OCI's I run with my Pentastar. I don't think that would put any significant stress on either of them.
I agree. I like the fact that the oil is capable of going further than the 6-7k miles interval I change as a safety margin.
wemay
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I saw this oil at Walmart today. Right now the regular VAFS is on Rollback for $21. This Extended oil is on Rollback for $25. This means the regular prices will be in line with Castrol and Mobil1 ($25 regular and $27 for the Extended), but as mentioned earlier here, the Extended versions of those brands "Guarantee 20k miles" whereas this oil makes no mention of longer oci. It's dead on arrival I think.
Ya I think your probably right, when comparing them (5w30) the only differences I can see is the Extended is a hair thicker but has a higher viscosity index but I'm really liking the increased zinc/phos. The Extended appears to be closer to the VFS HM.
Wally has had the VAS for $21.57 for a few months now. I've been keeping an eye on it hoping it would drop down like it did last year when I picked up a couple jugs for around $18 but I got paranoid last weekend and purchase a couple thinking it might go up instead
After I got home I realized one was high mileage, oh well been thinking about running HM in my Lucerne anyway.
I think these mileage guarantees from Mobil and Castrol for their EP products are a bunch of happy horse
. They advertise 20,000 miles on the front but state explicitly to follow OEM recommendations for oil change intervals on the back. It is gimmick marketing.It's funny how Valvoline is trying to piggyback on M1EP's image by using the bronze color band on the label. I'm sure Mobil doesn't have a copyright on label colors but Valvoline is using a very similar color scheme here. Coincidence? LOL Seems obvious to me what they are trying to do. Valvoline has a good reputation in my mind and I would not hesitate to use this new EP product if the price is right. But if the prices are equal, I would still choose M1EP over this simply due to good experience.
Also, I keep reading how oil itself doesn't wear out but it's the additive package that gets depleted and combustion by-products building up in the used oil that requires it to be changed out. Now we have people saying that this Valvoline EP oil won't go the distance because it doesn't have PAO or other high-end synthetic base content. Which is it?
Also, I keep reading how oil itself doesn't wear out but it's the additive package that gets depleted and combustion by-products building up in the used oil that requires it to be changed out. Now we have people saying that this Valvoline EP oil won't go the distance because it doesn't have PAO or other high-end synthetic base content. Which is it?
I agree, BUT, there is something to it. I've seen several UOA's from 20k runs on M1 EP, Amsoil Signature, and Castrol, and the oil was still serviceable. I still wouldn't do it, but they survived the marathon, so I don't think they are false claims, generally.I think these mileage guarantees from Mobil and Castrol for their EP products are a bunch of happy horse
wemay
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I think these mileage guarantees from Mobil and Castrol for their EP products are a bunch of happy horse
"If still under warranty"
wemay
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Valvoline actually used that color well before this product, on their Modern Engine formula motor oil...
"If still under warranty"
I get it trust me, I think that this is where Valvoline is trying to go with their new oil though. Like let's not make promises based on how many miles you might be able to drive but rather suggest that our product will outperform other comparable products under "normal," commonly expected conditions.
I am not saying it makes a lot of sense and I think that this will end up being another blunder from Valvoline. They are just trying to market it as a premium product and I am sure that if people will keep buying Royal Purple than some will buy this stuff too for similar reasons.
wemay
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We are in total agreement.
If the roll back price is $24.97 and the regular price is say $27.97....
I think this oil could have a chance of being ok. Castrol EP has been in that price range for a long while now. Still sells. All be it definitely slower than the other Castrol oils that are regular price less than $25.
Far, far better than attempting to sell oil at Walmart for $39.98.... that was a lead balloon job there. Or the Hindenburg...
I think this oil could have a chance of being ok. Castrol EP has been in that price range for a long while now. Still sells. All be it definitely slower than the other Castrol oils that are regular price less than $25.
Far, far better than attempting to sell oil at Walmart for $39.98.... that was a lead balloon job there. Or the Hindenburg...
Regardless of the Valvoline product, I still wonder if M1EP used the color first. Just a curiosity, nothing more.
LOL! Oh come on. Companies have been using gold/silver/bronze colors to differentiate product tiers for a long time. Let’s not pretend that mobil has some Groundbreaking scheme here. In the oil industry alone you can come up with a half dozen examples without even trying.
Some Sumerian merchant probably sold cloth with the same idea. “Hey hey - this is quality cloth from Ur! Not that cheap Tigris crap!”
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