two of the filter capacitors looks to have shorted and vented out and proceeded to burn spots in the pc board.
New tv's just don't last
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I bought a 46" Insignia LCD way back in like... '09? It was a 1080P 120hz set which was NUTS back then. Something like $900, and keep in mind this was a house brand.
It used CCFL backlighting, no LED's in that bad boy. I sold it to a friend's sister who I just found out the other day still has it. It's survived several moves, lots of bumps, and just keeps working.
My current 4 year old Vizio P-series has been flawless since I got it. I plan on replacing it with the new PQ series around Black Friday.
Just remember, only complainers post in the internet. 99% of the time any set you buy today will last it's designed service life (5 years-10 years).
It used CCFL backlighting, no LED's in that bad boy. I sold it to a friend's sister who I just found out the other day still has it. It's survived several moves, lots of bumps, and just keeps working.
My current 4 year old Vizio P-series has been flawless since I got it. I plan on replacing it with the new PQ series around Black Friday.
Just remember, only complainers post in the internet. 99% of the time any set you buy today will last it's designed service life (5 years-10 years).
designed service life? you mean planned obsolescent.
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TV's are so cheap, doesn't bother me if they die so soon.
A 50" TV used to be $2,000
Now you can get a fancy 4K one for $300. If the old $2,000 one would last 10 years, as long as the new one lasts 1.5 years you're just as good as you would be with the old one, but you get a lot better picture and more features like built in Netflix etc.
A 50" TV used to be $2,000
Now you can get a fancy 4K one for $300. If the old $2,000 one would last 10 years, as long as the new one lasts 1.5 years you're just as good as you would be with the old one, but you get a lot better picture and more features like built in Netflix etc.
It may be a plot to keep you buying Chinese goods. It's not in their best interest to make something that lasts.
Chinese TV breaks. What do you do next? You have to buy another Chinese TV to replace it. It's a plot to endlessly send money to China. Do you think Chinese QC is an accident?
Chinese TV breaks. What do you do next? You have to buy another Chinese TV to replace it. It's a plot to endlessly send money to China. Do you think Chinese QC is an accident?
I have 3 Samsung tvs in my house. One is about 8 years old, one about 4 years, and the other about 3 years. The 4 year old one (46" in bedroom) developed a problem where it would shut off and turn itself back on, and eventually wouldn't come back on at it. It was still under warranty so I called to have a "repairman" came out. He had a box full of boards, and replaced boards until he found the bad one. Been working great ever since. He said he had replaced a lot of boards on this particular model, but the new boards were much higher quality.
Haven't had any problems with the other two.
I have a couple of tube type tvs in the garage that are 15 - 20 years old that still work great, but they take up so much space, and use a lot more electricity. Sad thing is nobody wants them. I've tried giving them away, but couldn't get any takers. Will probably end up taking them to the electronics recycling place.
Haven't had any problems with the other two.
I have a couple of tube type tvs in the garage that are 15 - 20 years old that still work great, but they take up so much space, and use a lot more electricity. Sad thing is nobody wants them. I've tried giving them away, but couldn't get any takers. Will probably end up taking them to the electronics recycling place.
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My theory is that you get what you pay for with TVs, although there is an exception to every rule. I just replaced a 4 1/2 year old Vizio with a 4K LG from Sam's Club. The Vizio still works - it just lost one of it's LED backlight strips. Planning to use it in the basement exercise room. I might even tear it open and replace the LED strip if I can find the ambition.
Bought a new Panasonic TC-P50ST50 plasma 50" in 2012 (Black Friday). It replaced a 25-year-old Magnavox tube TV.
The ST50 has been great, with a wonderful picture, except for the fact that, about a week ago, the built-in YouTube and Netflix apps, which I've used almost daily, have stopped working. The YouTube app hangs on the startup screen, and the Netflix app (which has had intermittent problems for years) comes up with an error message.
Very frustrating.
The ST50 has been great, with a wonderful picture, except for the fact that, about a week ago, the built-in YouTube and Netflix apps, which I've used almost daily, have stopped working. The YouTube app hangs on the startup screen, and the Netflix app (which has had intermittent problems for years) comes up with an error message.
Very frustrating.
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Originally Posted by john_pifer
Bought a new Panasonic TC-P50ST50 plasma 50" in 2012 (Black Friday). It replaced a 25-year-old Magnavox tube TV.
The ST50 has been great, with a wonderful picture, except for the fact that, about a week ago, the built-in YouTube and Netflix apps, which I've used almost daily, have stopped working. The YouTube app hangs on the startup screen, and the Netflix app (which has had intermittent problems for years) comes up with an error message.
Very frustrating.
You are absolutely sure it's a TV problem and not a Network problem?
Bought a new Panasonic TC-P50ST50 plasma 50" in 2012 (Black Friday). It replaced a 25-year-old Magnavox tube TV.
The ST50 has been great, with a wonderful picture, except for the fact that, about a week ago, the built-in YouTube and Netflix apps, which I've used almost daily, have stopped working. The YouTube app hangs on the startup screen, and the Netflix app (which has had intermittent problems for years) comes up with an error message.
Very frustrating.
You are absolutely sure it's a TV problem and not a Network problem?
Originally Posted by Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted by john_pifer
Bought a new Panasonic TC-P50ST50 plasma 50" in 2012 (Black Friday). It replaced a 25-year-old Magnavox tube TV.
The ST50 has been great, with a wonderful picture, except for the fact that, about a week ago, the built-in YouTube and Netflix apps, which I've used almost daily, have stopped working. The YouTube app hangs on the startup screen, and the Netflix app (which has had intermittent problems for years) comes up with an error message.
Very frustrating.
You are absolutely sure it's a TV problem and not a Network problem?
I'm not 100% sure it's the TV, but I haven't bad connectivity problems with the other 2 devices that are on my WiFi (laptop and phone).
Originally Posted by john_pifer
Bought a new Panasonic TC-P50ST50 plasma 50" in 2012 (Black Friday). It replaced a 25-year-old Magnavox tube TV.
The ST50 has been great, with a wonderful picture, except for the fact that, about a week ago, the built-in YouTube and Netflix apps, which I've used almost daily, have stopped working. The YouTube app hangs on the startup screen, and the Netflix app (which has had intermittent problems for years) comes up with an error message.
Very frustrating.
You are absolutely sure it's a TV problem and not a Network problem?
I'm not 100% sure it's the TV, but I haven't bad connectivity problems with the other 2 devices that are on my WiFi (laptop and phone).
About a month ago my father-in-laws 42" Sony Bravia LCD TV (8-10 years old I think) color board went bad. He was ready to recycle it but I found a replacement board online for $50 and it's good as new. It's sitting in our cabin now. I like the older LCD TV's since the speakers back then were pretty decent. Still a heavy TV though.
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I get it. I just parted ways with a perfectly fine 2006 model Hitachi 51F59 51" 720p/1080i CRT (cathode ray tubes x 3 r/g/b) rear projection tv last weekend. I replaced it with a TCL 55S405 55" (LED backlit) LCD 4K UHD. * I hope it holds up okay *
Almost bought one of the extended warranties they offer but didn't. Maybe I should've. But in retrospect, these current get tv's, unless they're an OLED screen, *should* have some longevity-- LCD displays aren't that prone to outright failure, and use of LED's to backlight them instead of the ccfl micro-flourscents or whatever used to be used, ought to further add longevity.
The reason I chucked the old one when I did was purely opportunistic, The local solid waste management agency offered *free* drop off to recycle old television sets including CRT's and even big behemoth's like our old Hitachi-- it weighed about 150 lbs, no exaggeration. Normally they'd have charged 45 cents per pound for drop-off. I packed that bastich out of the house and into the Forester single handedly, albeit in two pieces (screen module and base module disassembled from each other).
Almost bought one of the extended warranties they offer but didn't. Maybe I should've. But in retrospect, these current get tv's, unless they're an OLED screen, *should* have some longevity-- LCD displays aren't that prone to outright failure, and use of LED's to backlight them instead of the ccfl micro-flourscents or whatever used to be used, ought to further add longevity.
The reason I chucked the old one when I did was purely opportunistic, The local solid waste management agency offered *free* drop off to recycle old television sets including CRT's and even big behemoth's like our old Hitachi-- it weighed about 150 lbs, no exaggeration. Normally they'd have charged 45 cents per pound for drop-off. I packed that bastich out of the house and into the Forester single handedly, albeit in two pieces (screen module and base module disassembled from each other).
New TVs last, but even like the old days sometimes you get a lemon.
Also new TVs are 10 times (or more) more affordable and reliable then they used to be, never mind that they use 500% (5 times) less electricity and very well may pay for themselves in electric savings over its lifetime.
Also new TVs are 10 times (or more) more affordable and reliable then they used to be, never mind that they use 500% (5 times) less electricity and very well may pay for themselves in electric savings over its lifetime.
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Originally Posted by john_pifer
Bought a new Panasonic TC-P50ST50 plasma 50" in 2012 (Black Friday). It replaced a 25-year-old Magnavox tube TV.
The ST50 has been great, with a wonderful picture, except for the fact that, about a week ago, the built-in YouTube and Netflix apps, which I've used almost daily, have stopped working. The YouTube app hangs on the startup screen, and the Netflix app (which has had intermittent problems for years) comes up with an error message.
Very frustrating.
5 years old old and 2012 is a really long time ago for an application especially a built in TV one. Does the TV have an inner setting to update itself and its apps? If not think outside the box
Buy a Roku, FireTV, Apple TV, Chromecast or whatever and plug it in for perfect experience starting around $30 . Good luck.
Bought a new Panasonic TC-P50ST50 plasma 50" in 2012 (Black Friday). It replaced a 25-year-old Magnavox tube TV.
The ST50 has been great, with a wonderful picture, except for the fact that, about a week ago, the built-in YouTube and Netflix apps, which I've used almost daily, have stopped working. The YouTube app hangs on the startup screen, and the Netflix app (which has had intermittent problems for years) comes up with an error message.
Very frustrating.
5 years old old and 2012 is a really long time ago for an application especially a built in TV one. Does the TV have an inner setting to update itself and its apps? If not think outside the box
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Originally Posted by LoneRanger
The reason I chucked the old one when I did was purely opportunistic, The local solid waste management agency offered *free* drop off to recycle old television sets including CRT's and even big behemoth's like our old Hitachi-- it weighed about 150 lbs, no exaggeration. Normally they'd have charged 45 cents per pound for drop-off. I packed that bastich out of the house and into the Forester single handedly, albeit in two pieces (screen module and base module disassembled from each other).
I got a laugh from reading this. In 2010 or so, I helped a cousin move into a new house he bought. The price he paid I considered on the higher end, his justification was "but they left a BIG SCREEN TV!!." I helped him move that TV into another room and I told him I'll never do it again. It probably weighed 400 pounds, some massive big-screen CRT monstrosity. No wonder the old homeowner left it!!
You can still repair TV's-- I've actually helped friends out with a couple in the last year or two. Both involved replacing one board. In each TV there was three circuit boards -- a power supply, a main board (CPU, etc.) and an interconnect board (where the ports are soldered onto.) Having to replace a LCD panel I imagine would mean throwing the TV away.
My 56" DLP Samsung had something go wrong at about the 2 year 51 week mark. Warranty was 3 years, Samsung paid to have a local outfit come look at it. The TV repair guy came out and replaced the whole main board which included the DLP chip/lenses, color wheel, etc. Pretty sure there was two boards in the whole thing, a mainboard and a power supply. I bet that main board was expensive, DLP chips are not cheap.
The reason I chucked the old one when I did was purely opportunistic, The local solid waste management agency offered *free* drop off to recycle old television sets including CRT's and even big behemoth's like our old Hitachi-- it weighed about 150 lbs, no exaggeration. Normally they'd have charged 45 cents per pound for drop-off. I packed that bastich out of the house and into the Forester single handedly, albeit in two pieces (screen module and base module disassembled from each other).
I got a laugh from reading this. In 2010 or so, I helped a cousin move into a new house he bought. The price he paid I considered on the higher end, his justification was "but they left a BIG SCREEN TV!!." I helped him move that TV into another room and I told him I'll never do it again. It probably weighed 400 pounds, some massive big-screen CRT monstrosity. No wonder the old homeowner left it!!
You can still repair TV's-- I've actually helped friends out with a couple in the last year or two. Both involved replacing one board. In each TV there was three circuit boards -- a power supply, a main board (CPU, etc.) and an interconnect board (where the ports are soldered onto.) Having to replace a LCD panel I imagine would mean throwing the TV away.
My 56" DLP Samsung had something go wrong at about the 2 year 51 week mark. Warranty was 3 years, Samsung paid to have a local outfit come look at it. The TV repair guy came out and replaced the whole main board which included the DLP chip/lenses, color wheel, etc. Pretty sure there was two boards in the whole thing, a mainboard and a power supply. I bet that main board was expensive, DLP chips are not cheap.
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Originally Posted by 92saturnsl2
Originally Posted by LoneRanger
The reason I chucked the old one when I did was purely opportunistic, The local solid waste management agency offered *free* drop off to recycle old television sets including CRT's and even big behemoth's like our old Hitachi-- it weighed about 150 lbs, no exaggeration. Normally they'd have charged 45 cents per pound for drop-off. I packed that bastich out of the house and into the Forester single handedly, albeit in two pieces (screen module and base module disassembled from each other).
I got a laugh from reading this. In 2010 or so, I helped a cousin move into a new house he bought. The price he paid I considered on the higher end, his justification was "but they left a BIG SCREEN TV!!." I helped him move that TV into another room and I told him I'll never do it again. It probably weighed 400 pounds, some massive big-screen CRT monstrosity. No wonder the old homeowner left it!!
You can still repair TV's-- I've actually helped friends out with a couple in the last year or two. Both involved replacing one board. In each TV there was three circuit boards -- a power supply, a main board (CPU, etc.) and an interconnect board (where the ports are soldered onto.) Having to replace a LCD panel I imagine would mean throwing the TV away.
My 56" DLP Samsung had something go wrong at about the 2 year 51 week mark. Warranty was 3 years, Samsung paid to have a local outfit come look at it. The TV repair guy came out and replaced the whole main board which included the DLP chip/lenses, color wheel, etc. Pretty sure there was two boards in the whole thing, a mainboard and a power supply. I bet that main board was expensive, DLP chips are not cheap.
Yup, LoL. Paid $899 for that beast back in 2006. Used it 12 yrs. Got our money's worth out of it !!
Originally Posted by LoneRanger
The reason I chucked the old one when I did was purely opportunistic, The local solid waste management agency offered *free* drop off to recycle old television sets including CRT's and even big behemoth's like our old Hitachi-- it weighed about 150 lbs, no exaggeration. Normally they'd have charged 45 cents per pound for drop-off. I packed that bastich out of the house and into the Forester single handedly, albeit in two pieces (screen module and base module disassembled from each other).
I got a laugh from reading this. In 2010 or so, I helped a cousin move into a new house he bought. The price he paid I considered on the higher end, his justification was "but they left a BIG SCREEN TV!!." I helped him move that TV into another room and I told him I'll never do it again. It probably weighed 400 pounds, some massive big-screen CRT monstrosity. No wonder the old homeowner left it!!
You can still repair TV's-- I've actually helped friends out with a couple in the last year or two. Both involved replacing one board. In each TV there was three circuit boards -- a power supply, a main board (CPU, etc.) and an interconnect board (where the ports are soldered onto.) Having to replace a LCD panel I imagine would mean throwing the TV away.
My 56" DLP Samsung had something go wrong at about the 2 year 51 week mark. Warranty was 3 years, Samsung paid to have a local outfit come look at it. The TV repair guy came out and replaced the whole main board which included the DLP chip/lenses, color wheel, etc. Pretty sure there was two boards in the whole thing, a mainboard and a power supply. I bet that main board was expensive, DLP chips are not cheap.
Yup, LoL. Paid $899 for that beast back in 2006. Used it 12 yrs. Got our money's worth out of it !!
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