New Lubes / CLP's You Want To Try In 2017 ?

[AMC]

I bought G96 Synthetic CLP and Mpro7 LPX gun oil based on the good recommendations received here.

I also bought Eezox and some foaming bore cleaner to try as I have always read about them and my favorite gun shop actually stocks them.

Initial evaluations are good on all of them but I hightly doubt any of them are going to knock my beloved corrosionX off it's thrown as my top gun care fluid. Between the G96 and Mpro7, I am slightly favoring the Mpro7. The Mpro7 seems thicker, with better cling and seems to make the parts feel more slick than the G96. The G96 is good and has almost no odor but it doesn't seem to clean very well at all (for being called a CLP) and I wish it stayed in place a bit better. The G96 is also too expensive compared to it's competition, at this time. 4 oz for $16 with free shipping is the best deal I could find.... 4 dollars per oz and it doesn't seem to be available any cheaper in bulk? Yikes!

Eezox is a whole separate animal and not really a CLP. To me, it is kind of dry, rust preventing, non stick, metal treatment rather than a true CLP. It is an OK general purpose cleaner but its lubricating qualities seem pretty poor. Once Eezox dries it really does form a non stick, rust proofed surface though. The smell of eezox seems Ok at first sniff but it really bothers my throat if I am round it too long. I am really liking eezox for knives and my less frequently used firearms thus far. I am not sure If I am going to keep buying this or not, more evaluation is needed.

The gunslick foaming bore cleaner seems pretty gimmicky and more mess than it is worth at this point.

Testing will continue into 2017.....

 

[bubbatime]

Originally Posted By: goatdude
I may consider Weaponshield after watching this video.

Slip 2000 EWL, Lucas Gun Oil, and Weapon Shield Comparisons


Thats a snake oil test. Try that same test with shampoo and it will pass the test with flying colors. Do you want to lube a gun with shampoo?

I do generally like FP10 and Weapon Shield (two lubes he "invented") though.

 

[bubbatime]

Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
Others I have not tried but have an eye on : Rand CLP , FP-10 , SLIP 2000 & Fire Clean .


Rand- junk. Just like fireclean
FP10- good stuff
Weapon Shield - better than FP10
Slip 2000 - boring
Slip 2000 EWL - one of the better lubes out there
Fireclean - junk junk junk
ALG go juice - looks promising, but still too early to tell
Battle Born - holy expensive lube batman!!
Militec 1 - high concentration of ammonia compounds, causes stress cracks in metals
Frog Lube- worse than Fireclean
MPro7- decent, but additives fall out of suspension and dont mix back in too well

There. I helped you save money.

 

[4WD]

0w16 for door hinges

 

[ChrisD46]

AMC : Good reply ! ... My needs would be similar as yours in that I prefer a thicker , stay put lube which is slick . Based on your experience , I'm not in a rush to try G96 now plus I can find Mpro 7 locally . Seems like the Eezox does essentially the same thing as Corrosion X (rust preventer) - how is the Corrosion X as a slick , stay put lube ?

 

[ChrisD46]

Bubbatime : Thanks ... LGS sells Slip2000 EWG but not the regular Slip2000 (probably feels the same as you do ) . Curious why you thought the Rand was junk ?

 

[AMC]

Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
AMC : Good reply ! ... My needs would be similar as yours in that I prefer a thicker , stay put lube which is slick . Based on your experience , I'm not in a rush to try G96 now plus I can find Mpro 7 locally . Seems like the Eezox does essentially the same thing as Corrosion X (rust preventer) - how is the Corrosion X as a slick , stay put lube ?


Thanks Chris- I don't mean to hijack the thread but Eezox and CorrosionX are not similar at all. The only thing that Eezox and corrosionX have in common is that they are both excellent rust preventers. From there, they are totally separate products with almost no similarities.

Corrosion X is a zero solvent, oil based, extreme pressure lubricant that also happens to be an excellent rust stopper and penetrant. Corrosion X is very unique in that It clings to metal very well but also penetrates and creeps a bit too. Tight fitting parts, heat and moisture do not displace Corrosion x, there always seems to be a film left behind. Although it contains no solvent, it's penetrating capabilities allow it to get under fowling and loosen it, allowing it to be brushed or wiped away. Corrosion X is also amazing on electronics and air tools. Corrosion X is approved for use by various branches of the military and has some of the best in house and 3rd party wear / corrosion testing results out there. New, tight fitting firearms feel like they are running on greased ball bearings after a treatment with Corrosion X. Out of everything I have tried, Corrosion X is the best general purpose lubricant, CLP and rust preventer. If I could only have 1 general purpose oil in my life, this would be it.

Eezox is a dry lube product and not oily at all. It comes out of the can like a thin, clearish yellow solvent that coats quickly, similar to rem-oil at first glance. Then Eezox dries, seems to disappear and leaves the parts feeling like they have been waxed or buffed heavily with a silicone cloth. Eezox is a pretty good general purpose crud cutter and seems to displace any other fouling or oils left behind on parts. That being said, do not think CLP or a general purpose oil when you think Eezox. Think of it as a dry lubricant and rust preventer only.

 

[Robenstein]

Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Originally Posted By: goatdude
I may consider Weaponshield after watching this video.

Slip 2000 EWL, Lucas Gun Oil, and Weapon Shield Comparisons


Thats a snake oil test. Try that same test with shampoo and it will pass the test with flying colors. Do you want to lube a gun with shampoo?

I do generally like FP10 and Weapon Shield (two lubes he "invented") though.


When the dude in the video said automotive lubricants lack any extreme pressure additives I laughed. Apparently he has never heard of moly or ZDDP.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Originally Posted By: Robenstein
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Originally Posted By: goatdude
I may consider Weaponshield after watching this video.

Slip 2000 EWL, Lucas Gun Oil, and Weapon Shield Comparisons


Thats a snake oil test. Try that same test with shampoo and it will pass the test with flying colors. Do you want to lube a gun with shampoo?

I do generally like FP10 and Weapon Shield (two lubes he "invented") though.


When the dude in the video said automotive lubricants lack any extreme pressure additives I laughed. Apparently he has never heard of moly or ZDDP.


So you're suggesting high moly and high ZDDP oils make the best gun oils? I'm assuming a thick oil also. For I wouldn't want a runny car oil leaking (or smelling) in my right front pocket.

 

[bubbatime]

Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
Curious why you thought the Rand was junk ?


Bio based oil just like Fireclean. Looks like fireclean, smells like fireclean, gums up like fireclean. Let it sit in your safe untouched for a year and your gun will be glued together.

 

[Robenstein]

Originally Posted By: Triple_Se7en
Originally Posted By: Robenstein
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Originally Posted By: goatdude
I may consider Weaponshield after watching this video.

Slip 2000 EWL, Lucas Gun Oil, and Weapon Shield Comparisons


Thats a snake oil test. Try that same test with shampoo and it will pass the test with flying colors. Do you want to lube a gun with shampoo?

I do generally like FP10 and Weapon Shield (two lubes he "invented") though.


When the dude in the video said automotive lubricants lack any extreme pressure additives I laughed. Apparently he has never heard of moly or ZDDP.


So you're suggesting high moly and high ZDDP oils make the best gun oils? I'm assuming a thick oil also. For I wouldn't want a runny car oil leaking (or smelling) in my right front pocket.


No I am suggesting the man doesn't know as much as he professes, therefore you must take the rest of his sales pitch with a grain of salt.

 

[billt460]

Originally Posted By: Robenstein
No I am suggesting the man doesn't know as much as he professes, therefore you must take the rest of his sales pitch with a grain of salt.


"The man" is George Fennel. And he is the original inventor of FP-10. He sold the company, and afterward they kept changing the formula of FP-10 until it no longer represented the original product he invented, and put on the market. He then went on to create the Weapon Shield line of products. He is very knowledgeable on the subject of lubrication, along with the chemistry that goes with it. George is a stand up guy.

 

[Robenstein]

Originally Posted By: billt460
Originally Posted By: Robenstein
No I am suggesting the man doesn't know as much as he professes, therefore you must take the rest of his sales pitch with a grain of salt.


"The man" is George Fennel. And he is the original inventor of FP-10. He sold the company, and afterward they kept changing the formula of FP-10 until it no longer represented the original product he invented, and put on the market. He then went on to create the Weapon Shield line of products. He is very knowledgeable on the subject of lubrication, along with the chemistry that goes with it. George is a stand up guy.


Well then he had a very large brainfart (and should have edited it out), because he is very clearly wrong in that statement and it undermines the rest of his pitch.

 

[totegoat]

My new GSG 1911-22 came with a LUCAS oil sample, I'll give it a go............

 

[totegoat]

A sample of Lucas (Extreme Duty) GUN OIL came with my new GSG 1911-22. I'll try it one of these days.......

 

[BalticBob]

Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
Just as the title states - any new lubes or CLP's you want to try in 2017 ? ... For me , perhaps Seal 1 Liquid or G96 Synthetic Lube . Although not new - I have not tried them yet .


There is an excess of anecdotal rambling for the forum
topic "Firearms: Lubes, Cleaners & Maintenance".
Plenty of other sites on the net to discuss "what is the best firearm/caliber/capacity/ to use for home defense.
This is a OIL site, so THANK YOU for opening a thread that is on topic!

 

[ChrisD46]

BalticBob : Agreed - that's why I wanted to post as I did .
Originally Posted By: BalticBob
Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
Just as the title states - any new lubes or CLP's you want to try in 2017 ? ... For me , perhaps Seal 1 Liquid or G96 Synthetic Lube . Although not new - I have not tried them yet .


There is an excess of anecdotal rambling for the forum
topic "Firearms: Lubes, Cleaners & Maintenance".
Plenty of other sites on the net to discuss "what is the best firearm/caliber/capacity/ to use for home defense.
This is a OIL site, so THANK YOU for opening a thread that is on topic!

 

[ChrisD46]

Thanks BubbaTime - additionally I am now reading that "bio based / green " lubes may not be the best for firearms - especially those that may sit in a safe for a while . I have had Ballistol and Frog Lube gum up on me (unless prepped properly and the thinnest of film left on the firearm) . One writer went on to suggest that with such small amounts' of lube a "CDC Biohazard suit is not required" to maintain our weapons ! Low smell and low offending vapor is desired however I will not let "cancer causing chemicals known in California" derail me from using a better lube ( again , we are talking such small amounts here plus gloves being worn) .* I will simply suggest that with user issues cropping up with bio marketed lubes (cold weather is another negative) that an often overlooked synthetic oil (such as Birch & Casey Synthetic Gun Oil) can be a great long term storage oil equally suited for high round count between cleaning . Then taking this notion further , there are a select few who loudly tout the attributes of : M1 V-Twin 20W 50 synthetic oil with robust amounts of Moly and ZDDP added . The above said , perhaps I will steer towards semi-synthetic / synthetic lubes I have not tried before the : "Bio / Green" based lubes became all the rage .
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
Curious why you thought the Rand was junk ?


Bio based oil just like Fireclean. Looks like fireclean, smells like fireclean, gums up like fireclean. Let it sit in your safe untouched for a year and your gun will be glued together.

 

[billt460]

Originally Posted By: ChrisD46
Thanks BubbaTime - additionally I am now reading that "bio based / green " lubes may not be the best for firearms - especially those that may sit in a safe for a while . I have had Ballistol and Frog Lube gum up on me (unless prepped properly and the thinnest of film left on the firearm) . One writer went on to suggest that with such small amounts' of lube a "CDC Biohazard suit is not required" to maintain our weapons ! Low smell and low offending vapor is desired however I will not let "cancer causing chemicals known in California" derail me from using a better lube ( again , we are talking such small amounts here plus gloves being worn).


I'm much the same. Way too much is made of the alleged "health problems" that these lubricants could possibly produce. Especially in the small amounts used by even the most active firearms enthusiast. I worked in the metal working trades for almost 45 years straight. And the general consensus I walked away with after all of that time is, show me a lubrication product that is supposedly good for the environment, and I'll show you a product that isn't worth a [removed] for it's intended purpose. I've proven this to myself over and over. I doubt this has changed when applied to firearms. It's why I won't touch vegetable based lubricants like Frog Lube or Fireclean. They are nothing but a solution to a non existent problem. All of which are being sold by fast buck artists who have a minimal knowledge of lubrication. And are simply interested in turning a dollar.

 

[Triple_Se7en]

Bircwood-Casey Synthetic Oil is pretty thin and runny. A better thin option would be Gunzilla, which leaves a thin coating that bonds to the surface and stays in-place.