New Consumer Reports Wax Rating

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Oh, the great fish wrap CR speaks, thir educated
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Just like the Fram observation above, I wouldnt put turtle wax on my car.

If CR is so smart why dont they do a little research and find some of the better non-common products instead of crap from K-mart and also perform some standard tests.
 
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If CR is so smart why dont they do a little research and find some of the better non-common products instead of crap from K-mart and also perform some standard tests.


I believe one of the criteria is that a product has to be widely available. That eliminates some of the best like Zaino.
 
What was the criteria for the CR test ? Did they break out the different criteria ? I'd only be interested in 'beading', maybe 'ease of use', and don't really care about 'depth of shine' and stuff.
 
If you are interested in how long beading lasts then nothing will outlast Collinite waxes (#476 will last longer but you can get 90% of that longevity with #845 and it is much easier to use) or Meguiars # 16 (discontinued but you can find a stray can around) and both are less than $15.
 
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If you are interested in how long beading lasts then nothing will outlast Collinite waxes (#476 will last longer but you can get 90% of that longevity with #845 and it is much easier to use) or Meguiars # 16 (discontinued but you can find a stray can around) and both are less than $15.

Waxes for beading: collinite and FK1.

I prefer the multi-layer protection:
Klasse AIO x1, SG x3, FK1 Pink x2. Apply in fall and spring, it beads all year long. additional apps of FK1 Pink and 425 every now and then for that slick, wet look.

Collinite is excellent too.
 
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What was the criteria for the CR test ? Did they break out the different criteria ? I'd only be interested in 'beading', maybe 'ease of use', and don't really care about 'depth of shine' and stuff.

How long the beading lasts is good to know.
 
Here's some pics of cars with collinite:

http://autopia.org/forum/showthread.php?t=71760&highlight=collinite

http://autopia.org/forum/showthread.php?t=71694&highlight=collinite

4 week old beading:
http://autopia.org/forum/showthread.php?t=63263&highlight=collinite

6-7 month old beading after withstanding canadian winter:
http://autopia.org/forum/showthread.php?t=67500&highlight=collinite

And regarding collinite durability, a quote from one of the detailing gurus and pro detailers (Scottwax, 16k+ posts):
"Ed-I think it ranks right up there with any beauty wax I have used and the durability and beading are at least as good as Meguiars #16. In addition, the ease of use makes applying and removing it about as easy as anything I have used."

[ June 03, 2006, 09:37 AM: Message edited by: W8inDE ]
 
Well this thread finally got me to look into waxes, which I've been meaning to do for some time. In the past I've just used the popular/inexpensive waxes (e.g. Mother's cleaner wax) once or twice/yr with no complaints. I'm going to try Collinite #845.
 
Definately ZAINO is the way to go. I looked into Class and some other sealants, but I have to agree with Sal at zaino, when he says "How can you prove you have any protection when a product beads water at first and then sheets"? No beading to me means no protection. My truck is outside all year long and the new Z2 Pro with the ZFX flash additive ROCKS! I put one coat on of the new stuff and my truck still beads water from a couple months ago. I have used it in the past and it will last 6 months outside, but I think this new Z2 pro is excellent. I can even get the stuff to wipe out of the mixing bottles using Dawn and alcohol!
 
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Definately ZAINO is the way to go. I looked into Class and some other sealants, but I have to agree with Sal at zaino, when he says "How can you prove you have any protection when a product beads water at first and then sheets"? No beading to me means no protection. My truck is outside all year long and the new Z2 Pro with the ZFX flash additive ROCKS! I put one coat on of the new stuff and my truck still beads water from a couple months ago. I have used it in the past and it will last 6 months outside, but I think this new Z2 pro is excellent. I can even get the stuff to wipe out of the mixing bottles using Dawn and alcohol!

First, it's Klasse
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. Second, Klasse, Collinite, FK1, Werkstatt, and others easily bead for months
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. If you "looked into Class (Klasse)," you would know that. And Sal is not inventing the wheel with his statement, "How can you prove you have any protection when a product beads water at first and then sheets." Sal should tell you why do you pay big money for Zaino when you can get similar or better results for cheaper.

Klasse lasts 6+ months for me outside. I top it with FK1 PW for asthetics, but the FK1 will last months too. You're not comparing Zaino to crappy OTC CS rated products when you mention Klasse and the others. You're comparing apples to apples, and they all pretty much perform the same. The only real difference is in the eye of the beholder, depth and gloss. Beading is a given.

With regards to dawn and alcohol cleaning the bottles...they would do that with any product
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. No matter which wax/sealant you use, wash your car with Dawn and alcohol and it won't bead, cause it strips the protectant off
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[ June 04, 2006, 09:00 PM: Message edited by: W8inDE ]
 
I have been looking for Zaino locally - can't find it. Do I have to order it on-line from Zaino?
 
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I have been looking for Zaino locally - can't find it. Do I have to order it on-line from Zaino?

Zaino does have a few distributors that sell their products at car shows and other events. But usually the best way to get it is directly from Zaino. Visit www.zainostore.com to shop and buy.

FWIW, I order some new Z5 and other stuff from Sal last Tuesday AM and got the package on Thursday via UPS. Get your order in early and it'll go out that same day.
 
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Where in CR's ratings did Zaino and Collinite place??


They probably didn't test them. Besides, CRs results are worthless.

This should enlighten you. Here's a thread on the same subject, being discussed by detailing enthusiasts and professional detailers:
http://autopia.org/forum/showthread.php?t=72194&page=1&pp=12


That thread is a great example of what a train wreck Autopia has become. And it used to be a wonderful place......
 
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I have been looking for Zaino locally - can't find it. Do I have to order it on-line from Zaino?

Thier online service is fast. Their warehouse is near Kansas City so it's not too far from anyplace in the US.

For some reason they don't publish a list of distributers but will send you a list of local distributers if you tell them where you live.
 
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