New Consumer Reports Wax Rating

Status
Not open for further replies.
quote:

Originally posted by Patman:
I agree that it doesn't last that long and it has been hyped up a lot on the internet. However I recently switched back to NXT as I find it does a fantastic job of hiding the swirl marks on my black finish. And it definitely makes the black look darker and shinier than my Zaino Z2 (although I was using the old formula) I also find NXT is easier to remove than the old Z2.

But I know it's not as durable as Zaino. And you need to buff the car a second time after you put on NXT to get rid of that greasy look (it's got a lot of petroleum in it)

For the winter time I get a detail shop to throw on some Meguiars #26, which is a lot more durable. But in the warm weather when I don't mind waxing myself every couple of weeks, I'm going to continue using NXT for now.


The shine was really good with NXT and I wanted to like it but it's just not durable enough for the area. I had one other problem with it too that I forgot about but that's not really the fault of the wax. When it drys it's almost exactly the same color as my 4Runner. So removing it wasn't so easy since it was so hard wo see.

It really did give a nice finish though. If it lasted even a few months I'd probably keep using it.
 
Yep, the durability of NXT really is poor, which is ironic since right on the bottle of NXT it says that this wax is Meguiar's longest lasting wax! I'd hate to see what their least lasting wax is!
shocked.gif


The only other wax out there which I've found to buff off as easily as NXT is the Wax Shops "Super Glaze" stuff (I think that's the name) I haven't seen that stuff in years though. It used to be popular with the pro drag racers, as they could polish their paint quickly in between runs so they were nice and shiny for the TV cameras.
smile.gif
 
quote:

Originally posted by W8inDE:

quote:

Originally posted by MIAMI-DADE:

quote:

Originally posted by W8inDE:


No offense to you Nu Finish guys, but I wouldn't let it touch my paint. It has a very high solvent/chemical content, that's why it smells so strong; formulated back in the 80s and great for its time, but it's ancient at this point. It's a long lasting sealant, but leaves a plasticy dull shine, and IMO is too abrasive for new paints/clearcoats. Better sealants off the top of my head...Klasse and Werstatt. Much, much better!


I had about 300 coats of Nu-finish on my last car[99 Marquis]and it looked brand new till the day i let it go.


300 coats on a 1999? If you owned it for say, 6 years, that would be 50 coats a year. I'm using multiple coats of sealants topped w/ carnubas, and that makes about 12 coats per year. Of coarse, the 6-8 of those coats are purely for depth and gloss.

If you had to use 50 coats per year, it wasn't that good.


The only reason i put 300 coats on it was because i wash it ounce a week and it only takes about 30 min. to put a coat of New Finish on it.The paint still looked like new when i sold it.

I'm putting it on a white 05 Crown Vic almost every week now.In Miami where it rains almost daily and you get the morning dew every morning by the second day it looks like it was barely washed no matter what wax you use.I figure the N.F.helps protect it from the daily burning sun and the daily pouring rain.

With all the constuction going on here and all that dust flying around its impossible to keep it clean for more than a few hours.I never even open a window in it due to all the dust.Its that bad.
 
Black Magic Wet Shine Liquid.

Who sells it?I went to every store in my large town and nobody has it.Or even heard of it for that matter.They all have Black Magic tire cleaners but no wax.
 
quote:

Originally posted by MIAMI-DADE:

quote:

Originally posted by W8inDE:

quote:

Originally posted by MIAMI-DADE:

quote:

Originally posted by W8inDE:


No offense to you Nu Finish guys, but I wouldn't let it touch my paint. It has a very high solvent/chemical content, that's why it smells so strong; formulated back in the 80s and great for its time, but it's ancient at this point. It's a long lasting sealant, but leaves a plasticy dull shine, and IMO is too abrasive for new paints/clearcoats. Better sealants off the top of my head...Klasse and Werstatt. Much, much better!


I had about 300 coats of Nu-finish on my last car[99 Marquis]and it looked brand new till the day i let it go.


300 coats on a 1999? If you owned it for say, 6 years, that would be 50 coats a year. I'm using multiple coats of sealants topped w/ carnubas, and that makes about 12 coats per year. Of coarse, the 6-8 of those coats are purely for depth and gloss.

If you had to use 50 coats per year, it wasn't that good.


The only reason i put 300 coats on it was because i wash it ounce a week and it only takes about 30 min. to put a coat of New Finish on it.The paint still looked like new when i sold it.

I'm putting it on a white 05 Crown Vic almost every week now.In Miami where it rains almost daily and you get the morning dew every morning by the second day it looks like it was barely washed no matter what wax you use.I figure the N.F.helps protect it from the daily burning sun and the daily pouring rain.

With all the constuction going on here and all that dust flying around its impossible to keep it clean for more than a few hours.I never even open a window in it due to all the dust.Its that bad.


It's not the weather, it's the nufinish. Just try another product like werkstatt, zaino, FK1, collinite, etc.. It will look much better.

Besides, you can not layer nufinish. It is a cleaner wax. Every week you put a new coat on, your just stripping the previous coat. The whole purpose of using a durable wax/sealant is so you don't have to wax every week/month. For the weekly stuff, try a quick detailer and make your life easy.
 
Bebop>I'll try Walmart.Thats the only one i didn't check out.

W8inDE>I'll check the other stuff out.I'll try anything ounce.
 
Tried the Black Magic Liquid and it did come out better.Not by much but better.Will see how it holds up as it should be a rainy weekend here in the jungle.

The only thing i didn't like was it took me an hour with Blck Magic as with Nu-Finsh it only took 30 minuites as i had to wipe each area twice to get the wax off as when you use Nu-Finish you only have to wipe it ounce.
 
quote:

Originally posted by txmatt:
Most of these folks bashing CR results are members of the various wax cults who go off on weekend retreats to remote locations to multi-step-wax their vehicles while other devotees chant and dance around the sacrificial vehicles. I should know because I was once lured by the Zymol and Zaino and P21 drumbeat, spending 5x the necessary dollars and doing 3x the work for 10% better results. I have since reformed.

CR tests products for 90% of the population that uses a product as a tool for it's intended purpose. If you're looking for spiritual enlightenment from your car wax or car or slacks or wine, read Autpoia or Hemmings Motor News or Sommelier Today or something. For most folks, CR's highly rated products do a good job for their intended purpose. Does it mean there aren't better products out there? Of course not.


I couldn't agree more.

As to CR's tests, the test criteria used, the things tested for, and the variety and availability of brands tested, I've read many test articles on such things as exterior paints and stains, major indoor appliances, and outdoor motorized lawn and garden equipment. Personally, I think they do a good job. I've never understood all the CR bashing on this site. I suspect one of the main reasons is that CR's results don't validate the favorite brand of the bashers.

As to the car wax report, CR tested 28 brands, including, in CR's words, some "pricier waxes favored by auto enthusiasts". That's a LOT of brands. I defy anyone to find any type of any store that has anywhere near that many brands on its shelves. They tested for gloss, cleaning, protection, effort, residue, scratching or hazing, and compatibility with plastic. To quote from the above link giving the short version of the CR article:

"Consumer Reports tested using sample panels uniformly finished with white or black automotive paint, both with and without clear coat. Some were left to weather for 12 months on the roof of CR’s National Test Center in Yonkers, NY and others were put into a device that simulates extreme weather conditions. The panels were brought into a lab weekly, where technicians washed and dried them, and applied drops of water to measure beading effect. How well a wax causes water to bead, or repel water, is one way to determine whether wax still provides protection from acid rain and contaminants. To test for ease of use and how well products worked to clean and improve gloss on fading paint, CR used real vehicles, some of which had rarely or never been waxed.

To assess gloss, CR did side-by-side visual comparisons. For durability, CR tracked how water beaded to show how quickly the wax wore away. Cleaning and scratching/hazing tests also relied on side-by-side visual comparisons. For ease of use, CR used cars owned by staffers."
 
Well i have to admit the Back Magic Liquid seems to be holding up better.Usally after a rain there would be spots on with N.F.But with the Black Magic Liquid there weren't any.Still looked great after several rainstorms.I usally go to a retreat to wax it cause there is no shade where i live to wax it and don't want to be interruped by people coming by bothering me and talking to me.It usally rains before i can even get home after waxing it.Thats the way it is in the jungle.

Maybe now i'll just wax it ounce a month instead of every week.
 
1 application of NuFinish on my car will generally last 6 months to 12 months (beads water, bird poop wipes off clean, etc...) but worms and mud can still stick to the plastic bumper covers.
 
"...worms and mud can still stick to the plastic bumper covers"

Allow me to be the first since inquiring minds want to know......

Specfically.... the "worms."

Pray, tell, whatcha' doin' to be gettin' worms upon thine bumpers?
 
I use Collinite 476 and sometimes Collinite Insulator wax. The Insulator wax is easier to apply but doesn't last quite as long as the 476.
I once called Collinite and asked about the differences in their waxes and if they had any tips or advice.
For maximum protection they recommended a coat of 476 and then adding a coat of Insulator after waiting a day or two. I've been doing this and the beading is great even after 6-7 months of winter salt and car washes.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top Bottom