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Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Good question, I don't have an answer, rather a question. Since this is in print form I don't want to come across as a wise arse, especially to a person like yourself who I consider a friend and someone who has been helpful to me!
Here goes: What happened to Mobil when Katrina crippled them? Many of the oil companies have skeletons in the closet. The only oil I've used from Castrol in the last 30+ years is Edge, and the reports here have been good. I've been very pleased, and have stated many times why. I'll continue to monitor and see, I have to believe the SN formulas are an improvement, and until someone runs a VOA on the new stuff, I'm thinking typo. Doug H BTW thinks Edge is a solid performer, and is in a way an insider. His opinion I respect, we've chatted about this in PM land, I think the product is solid.
Has anyone compared numbers from Mobil, Pennzoil, or Valvoline SM vs SN yet? I haven't.
Mobil fail-teamed hardcore after the Katrina fiasco. The lack of specs on oil bottles was a key indicator to that. Which I remember Bill in Utah mentioning. I've never actually seen the bottles in person, but the oil we get up here tends to be different than what is south of the border, particularly back then.
However, I would think that an example like that, which was a supply disruption, is more like a "one time event", like the Seq IVA thing, which I really wanted to see Mobil turn into a lawsuit, but since all they did was prove to the API that the product meets the spec.... Has me assuming that they had a bad batch and their competition got a hold of it and went to town.
These are about the only two examples of product quality issues that I've witnessed/heard of with their products (and I mean real ones, not like Jim Bob telling Squirley Pete "the nose" Jones that Mobil 1 5w20 ate the lobes clear off his Modular cams).
Whereas, what you Doug and buster speak of, appears to point to a rather long history of having engine cleanliness as a low priority over the years.
And yes, Doug has pointed out that this is no longer the case and he would have no issue using their oils currently; That they are near the top of the pile. And I would take his word on that without question. I'm just sort of asking the question because the history is there. I am not taking issue with their current offering by any means.
Good question, I don't have an answer, rather a question. Since this is in print form I don't want to come across as a wise arse, especially to a person like yourself who I consider a friend and someone who has been helpful to me!
Here goes: What happened to Mobil when Katrina crippled them? Many of the oil companies have skeletons in the closet. The only oil I've used from Castrol in the last 30+ years is Edge, and the reports here have been good. I've been very pleased, and have stated many times why. I'll continue to monitor and see, I have to believe the SN formulas are an improvement, and until someone runs a VOA on the new stuff, I'm thinking typo. Doug H BTW thinks Edge is a solid performer, and is in a way an insider. His opinion I respect, we've chatted about this in PM land, I think the product is solid.
Has anyone compared numbers from Mobil, Pennzoil, or Valvoline SM vs SN yet? I haven't.
Mobil fail-teamed hardcore after the Katrina fiasco. The lack of specs on oil bottles was a key indicator to that. Which I remember Bill in Utah mentioning. I've never actually seen the bottles in person, but the oil we get up here tends to be different than what is south of the border, particularly back then.
However, I would think that an example like that, which was a supply disruption, is more like a "one time event", like the Seq IVA thing, which I really wanted to see Mobil turn into a lawsuit, but since all they did was prove to the API that the product meets the spec.... Has me assuming that they had a bad batch and their competition got a hold of it and went to town.
These are about the only two examples of product quality issues that I've witnessed/heard of with their products (and I mean real ones, not like Jim Bob telling Squirley Pete "the nose" Jones that Mobil 1 5w20 ate the lobes clear off his Modular cams).
Whereas, what you Doug and buster speak of, appears to point to a rather long history of having engine cleanliness as a low priority over the years.
And yes, Doug has pointed out that this is no longer the case and he would have no issue using their oils currently; That they are near the top of the pile. And I would take his word on that without question. I'm just sort of asking the question because the history is there. I am not taking issue with their current offering by any means.
