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Originally Posted By: harry j
I just sent a SSO sample in to Blackstones for analysis. The gas smell was gone and the oil appeared cleaner. I went 10% further on this run than in previous intervals.
So that would be 3,300 miles?
I just sent a SSO sample in to Blackstones for analysis. The gas smell was gone and the oil appeared cleaner. I went 10% further on this run than in previous intervals.
So that would be 3,300 miles?
Originally Posted By: Bill in Utah
Originally Posted By: harry j
I just sent a SSO sample in to Blackstones for analysis. The gas smell was gone and the oil appeared cleaner. I went 10% further on this run than in previous intervals.
So that would be 3,300 miles?
Yes Bill, actually 3,377 miles. Depending on the UOA, I will start to stretch out the intervals. I am driving less now, filling up (10.5 gallons) every 9 days vs the 6 or 7 I used to.
Originally Posted By: harry j
I just sent a SSO sample in to Blackstones for analysis. The gas smell was gone and the oil appeared cleaner. I went 10% further on this run than in previous intervals.
So that would be 3,300 miles?
Yes Bill, actually 3,377 miles. Depending on the UOA, I will start to stretch out the intervals. I am driving less now, filling up (10.5 gallons) every 9 days vs the 6 or 7 I used to.
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This is a long thread.
Thanks for the informative post.
This is a long thread.
Thanks for the informative post.
Originally Posted By: Tempest
Originally Posted By: GROUCHO MARX
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Thanks for the informative post.
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Originally Posted By: buster
You're loosing a lot of money though by draining $10qt oil out so soon. It can handle longer drains. Go for it!
I'm heading that way buster
You're loosing a lot of money though by draining $10qt oil out so soon. It can handle longer drains. Go for it!
I'm heading that way buster
Buster you can never drain $10,.00 per Qt oil out too soon .Look at the uoas more do it than not.
Originally Posted By: Steve S
Buster you can never drain $10,.00 per Qt oil out too soon .Look at the uoas more do it than not.
How true!!! Most uoa's don't even begin to touch on extended darins!
FWIW - Wife's car has about 2k on SSO,start up noise is gone,no mpg change,oil is still golden brown and no useage. Usually about this time is when I'd be adding a 1/4 of a quart of what I use to use be it M1,RP or GC.
Buster you can never drain $10,.00 per Qt oil out too soon .Look at the uoas more do it than not.
How true!!! Most uoa's don't even begin to touch on extended darins!
FWIW - Wife's car has about 2k on SSO,start up noise is gone,no mpg change,oil is still golden brown and no useage. Usually about this time is when I'd be adding a 1/4 of a quart of what I use to use be it M1,RP or GC.
Originally Posted By: Bambam
Originally Posted By: Steve S
Buster you can never drain $10,.00 per Qt oil out too soon .Look at the uoas more do it than not.
How true!!! Most uoa's don't even begin to touch on extended darins!
FWIW - Wife's car has about 2k on SSO,start up noise is gone,no mpg change,oil is still golden brown and no useage. Usually about this time is when I'd be adding a 1/4 of a quart of what I use to use be it M1,RP or GC.
Bambam, You may not notice a MPG increase for a couple of SSO changes. I think it has something to do with engine conditioning. I am pleased to see that your engine responded to the SSO by being quieter, especially at startup, I noticed that with my Civic as well. The EAO keeps the SSO cleaner than any other filter I have ever used, this is really a potent combination. Try to notice this also; because of the performance increases with the SSO, you may find that you are driving faster than you intended, negating any MPG increase. Please get back to me if you can verify this.
Originally Posted By: Steve S
Buster you can never drain $10,.00 per Qt oil out too soon .Look at the uoas more do it than not.
How true!!! Most uoa's don't even begin to touch on extended darins!
FWIW - Wife's car has about 2k on SSO,start up noise is gone,no mpg change,oil is still golden brown and no useage. Usually about this time is when I'd be adding a 1/4 of a quart of what I use to use be it M1,RP or GC.
Bambam, You may not notice a MPG increase for a couple of SSO changes. I think it has something to do with engine conditioning. I am pleased to see that your engine responded to the SSO by being quieter, especially at startup, I noticed that with my Civic as well. The EAO keeps the SSO cleaner than any other filter I have ever used, this is really a potent combination. Try to notice this also; because of the performance increases with the SSO, you may find that you are driving faster than you intended, negating any MPG increase. Please get back to me if you can verify this.
Originally Posted By: Steve S
Originally Posted By: buster
8%-14% price increase for Amsoil products starting Aug 1st.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Amsoil is suposed to save you money....i dont see how? I can see time maybe but not money.
Originally Posted By: buster
8%-14% price increase for Amsoil products starting Aug 1st.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Amsoil is suposed to save you money....i dont see how? I can see time maybe but not money.
In order to save you money at $10/qt versus $2/qt you'd have to run it more than 5x as long. If your normal OCI is 3000, then you MUST get 15,000 out of the oil change to break even. So, no it won't save you money, but it might save you a little bit of time?
I'd rather run my nice cheap Synpower 5k-10k, its easier to be economical that way.
I'd rather run my nice cheap Synpower 5k-10k, its easier to be economical that way.
The beauty is that you could run this oil over 15,000 miles if your vehicle was in solid mechanical condition. Hey do what you want though it's all good at BITOG!!
Originally Posted By: harry j
Originally Posted By: Bambam
Originally Posted By: Steve S
Buster you can never drain $10,.00 per Qt oil out too soon .Look at the uoas more do it than not.
How true!!! Most uoa's don't even begin to touch on extended darins!
FWIW - Wife's car has about 2k on SSO,start up noise is gone,no mpg change,oil is still golden brown and no useage. Usually about this time is when I'd be adding a 1/4 of a quart of what I use to use be it M1,RP or GC.
Bambam, You may not notice a MPG increase for a couple of SSO changes. I think it has something to do with engine conditioning. I am pleased to see that your engine responded to the SSO by being quieter, especially at startup, I noticed that with my Civic as well. The EAO keeps the SSO cleaner than any other filter I have ever used, this is really a potent combination. Try to notice this also; because of the performance increases with the SSO, you may find that you are driving faster than you intended, negating any MPG increase. Please get back to me if you can verify this.
Start-up noise is gone, gone good-bye!! EAO filter is well worth the money!!!
The Impala is real easy to speed in without knowing and yes when either my wife or I drive it(wife almost 90% of the time) we did notice an unconscious heavy foot!!
We did notice and logged the best mpg the car ever got in 5 years/74k miles over the weekend. 28mpg in a 178 mile trip!
Originally Posted By: Bambam
Originally Posted By: Steve S
Buster you can never drain $10,.00 per Qt oil out too soon .Look at the uoas more do it than not.
How true!!! Most uoa's don't even begin to touch on extended darins!
FWIW - Wife's car has about 2k on SSO,start up noise is gone,no mpg change,oil is still golden brown and no useage. Usually about this time is when I'd be adding a 1/4 of a quart of what I use to use be it M1,RP or GC.
Bambam, You may not notice a MPG increase for a couple of SSO changes. I think it has something to do with engine conditioning. I am pleased to see that your engine responded to the SSO by being quieter, especially at startup, I noticed that with my Civic as well. The EAO keeps the SSO cleaner than any other filter I have ever used, this is really a potent combination. Try to notice this also; because of the performance increases with the SSO, you may find that you are driving faster than you intended, negating any MPG increase. Please get back to me if you can verify this.
Start-up noise is gone, gone good-bye!! EAO filter is well worth the money!!!
The Impala is real easy to speed in without knowing and yes when either my wife or I drive it(wife almost 90% of the time) we did notice an unconscious heavy foot!!
We did notice and logged the best mpg the car ever got in 5 years/74k miles over the weekend. 28mpg in a 178 mile trip!
Originally Posted By: yota4me
My results with SSO (&quest for max mpg)thus far, as posted on another forum:
Originally Posted By: yota4me2;1355900
05 Toyota Tacoma V6, AT, 4x4, access cab:
Since the weather warmed up, I've been getting 21.6--22 mpg (EPA sticker said 17--21 mpg) with alot of cold start 7 mile trips & apprx. 50/50 city highway driving, flat terrain, using Shell 87 octane (owners manual recommends 91+ octane for best performance/fuel economy), 245/75/16 Michelin LTX A/S tires. Warm up time is apprx. 5-10 seconds. I gradually accelerate to 45-50 mph til normal operating temp, then 60 mph max. I coast (simply let off the gas) as much as possibe/gradually decelerate when approaching stops/turns. Basically gradually accelerating & decelerating. I don't know what my highway mileage would be now--23-24? This is the best mpg I've gotten for this type driving (50/50 city/highway) during the 15 months I've been driving the truck. I guess my results are a combination of truck getting broken in, driving style, summer blend gas/and/or warm weather, stock size (low rolling resistance?) tires, flat terrain, synthetic oil?, topper. Going to start trying some Lube Control FP60 & Lucas Upper Cylinder Lubricant for mpg increase.
UPDATE: Above was as of sometime in May, 2006. Since then, I've been using Lucas UCL (1 oz per 5 gal of gas), the weather has gotten warmer, and I've limited my top speed to 55 mph. I've also replaced oil in front & rear differentials with synthetic oil. I've been getting around 22.6--23.2 mpg. The 23.2 mpg was probably closer to 65--70% highway miles. I assume my 100% highway mpg would be around 24 mpg using the 87 octane with Lucas UCL and around 25 mpg with Shell 93 octane & Lucas UCL. Might try some E3 spark plugs for more mpg.
http://www.e3sparkplugs.com/
Maybe those would put me close to 26 mpg (or close to 25 mpg the way I'm currently driving) for 100% highway mpg with Shell 93 octane & Lucas UCL??????
UPDATE:
23.826 mpg combined city/highway--average of apprx 1/4 tank using Amsoil 5W-30 (ASL) + 3 oz Auto-RX & apprx 1/2 tank using Amsoil 0W-30 (SSO)+ 3 oz Auto-RX. Amsoil lubricants throughout except power steering fluid. Using Shell 87 octane & FP60. Tires inflated to 35 psi cold.
With Shell 93 octane, I'd expect around 24.5 mpg combined---not bad for a truck with EPA rating of 18 mpg combined.
UPDATED MPG RESULTS WITH AMSOIL SSO & EAA AIR FILTER:
Last tank--24.7 mpg w/Shell 87 octane. Scan Guage currently showing 26.7 mpg with 120 miles (mostly highway)on current tank w/Shell 93 octane. Amazing for a 17-21 mpg rated truck!
I'd have to say the SSO (& maybe the EAA air filter) definitely helps the mpg.
My results with SSO (&quest for max mpg)thus far, as posted on another forum:
Originally Posted By: yota4me2;1355900
05 Toyota Tacoma V6, AT, 4x4, access cab:
Since the weather warmed up, I've been getting 21.6--22 mpg (EPA sticker said 17--21 mpg) with alot of cold start 7 mile trips & apprx. 50/50 city highway driving, flat terrain, using Shell 87 octane (owners manual recommends 91+ octane for best performance/fuel economy), 245/75/16 Michelin LTX A/S tires. Warm up time is apprx. 5-10 seconds. I gradually accelerate to 45-50 mph til normal operating temp, then 60 mph max. I coast (simply let off the gas) as much as possibe/gradually decelerate when approaching stops/turns. Basically gradually accelerating & decelerating. I don't know what my highway mileage would be now--23-24? This is the best mpg I've gotten for this type driving (50/50 city/highway) during the 15 months I've been driving the truck. I guess my results are a combination of truck getting broken in, driving style, summer blend gas/and/or warm weather, stock size (low rolling resistance?) tires, flat terrain, synthetic oil?, topper. Going to start trying some Lube Control FP60 & Lucas Upper Cylinder Lubricant for mpg increase.
UPDATE: Above was as of sometime in May, 2006. Since then, I've been using Lucas UCL (1 oz per 5 gal of gas), the weather has gotten warmer, and I've limited my top speed to 55 mph. I've also replaced oil in front & rear differentials with synthetic oil. I've been getting around 22.6--23.2 mpg. The 23.2 mpg was probably closer to 65--70% highway miles. I assume my 100% highway mpg would be around 24 mpg using the 87 octane with Lucas UCL and around 25 mpg with Shell 93 octane & Lucas UCL. Might try some E3 spark plugs for more mpg.
http://www.e3sparkplugs.com/
Maybe those would put me close to 26 mpg (or close to 25 mpg the way I'm currently driving) for 100% highway mpg with Shell 93 octane & Lucas UCL??????
UPDATE:
23.826 mpg combined city/highway--average of apprx 1/4 tank using Amsoil 5W-30 (ASL) + 3 oz Auto-RX & apprx 1/2 tank using Amsoil 0W-30 (SSO)+ 3 oz Auto-RX. Amsoil lubricants throughout except power steering fluid. Using Shell 87 octane & FP60. Tires inflated to 35 psi cold.
With Shell 93 octane, I'd expect around 24.5 mpg combined---not bad for a truck with EPA rating of 18 mpg combined.
UPDATED MPG RESULTS WITH AMSOIL SSO & EAA AIR FILTER:
Last tank--24.7 mpg w/Shell 87 octane. Scan Guage currently showing 26.7 mpg with 120 miles (mostly highway)on current tank w/Shell 93 octane. Amazing for a 17-21 mpg rated truck!
I'd have to say the SSO (& maybe the EAA air filter) definitely helps the mpg.
yota4me,
The SSO has done wonders for my MPG. I think the Civic was originally stickered in 1993 at 35 MPG HWY with the automatic transmission. I regularly average over 45 MPG HWY and the last page in my MPG book, returned an overall average of 39.8 MPG.
The SSO has done wonders for my MPG. I think the Civic was originally stickered in 1993 at 35 MPG HWY with the automatic transmission. I regularly average over 45 MPG HWY and the last page in my MPG book, returned an overall average of 39.8 MPG.
Originally Posted By: harry j
yota4me,
The SSO has done wonders for my MPG. I think the Civic was originally stickered in 1993 at 35 MPG HWY with the automatic transmission. I regularly average over 45 MPG HWY and the last page in my MPG book, returned an overall average of 39.8 MPG.
MPG savings will pay for the oil itself...especially with the price of fuel. I was getting about 2% MPG savings in a 12K yearly OCI with the TSO. That alone paid for the price of the oil!
yota4me,
The SSO has done wonders for my MPG. I think the Civic was originally stickered in 1993 at 35 MPG HWY with the automatic transmission. I regularly average over 45 MPG HWY and the last page in my MPG book, returned an overall average of 39.8 MPG.
MPG savings will pay for the oil itself...especially with the price of fuel. I was getting about 2% MPG savings in a 12K yearly OCI with the TSO. That alone paid for the price of the oil!
Just changed from 0w-20 Amsoil to SSO. I did this at the same time as adding one of the new design bypass kits.
There were too many changes all at once to get a good baseline for mpg but I have noticed that the SSO is quieter and maintains good pressure at operating temp. I'm assuming the quieter operation is just more dampening of the 30w.
There were too many changes all at once to get a good baseline for mpg but I have noticed that the SSO is quieter and maintains good pressure at operating temp. I'm assuming the quieter operation is just more dampening of the 30w.
I went from 5w 30 synthetic (PP) to Amsoil SSO 0w 30 and absolutely saw an increase of 1.5 to 2 mpg. My car has an "average mpg" gauge and I drive the same route daily. Without a doubt this increase was real. Without the average mpg gauge I probably wouldn't have been able to really judge the increase though.
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