Originally Posted By: ericthepig
UOAs are needed yes. Lots of early warning signs to get from them. But UOAs (imo) breed a "perfectionism" mentality. There's a bazzilion folks out there who don't know any better and are taking Amsoil and M1 at their word. If they ever did a UOA they'd probably stop dead in their tracks and become part of the 7.5k/6 month crowd because "the iron readings are high".
I'm confident that all the ignorant folks out there running Amsoil to 1yr OCIs, and running M1 EP to 15k - they're all pushing their oils to where most UOA readers wouldn't dare - and in the end it's all the same. No oil related problems - for the UOA reader, nor for the ignorant soccer mom who believed the Amsoil rep.
I know what you're saying. I ran M1 10w30 EP in my work truck,no uoa until the end. It was fair results skewed by an apparent coolant leak. I informed the mechanics and they weren't concerned. It's still going after 20k+ plus of these reults,it get dino changes every 3-5k. Looses a little bit of coolant perhaps a cup or so every 6 months. The more you look the more potential problems you'll find. UOA's have their place and are a useful tool but the average Joe who see's the commercial touting the EP's ability to go 15k will do it cause Mobil says so.Who knows,my buddy ran his brand new 1979 Cutlas on 10k dino changes for it's entire life,he got rid of it 17 years later as it was approaching 180k without an oil related issue with the engine.
UOAs are needed yes. Lots of early warning signs to get from them. But UOAs (imo) breed a "perfectionism" mentality. There's a bazzilion folks out there who don't know any better and are taking Amsoil and M1 at their word. If they ever did a UOA they'd probably stop dead in their tracks and become part of the 7.5k/6 month crowd because "the iron readings are high".
I'm confident that all the ignorant folks out there running Amsoil to 1yr OCIs, and running M1 EP to 15k - they're all pushing their oils to where most UOA readers wouldn't dare - and in the end it's all the same. No oil related problems - for the UOA reader, nor for the ignorant soccer mom who believed the Amsoil rep.
I know what you're saying. I ran M1 10w30 EP in my work truck,no uoa until the end. It was fair results skewed by an apparent coolant leak. I informed the mechanics and they weren't concerned. It's still going after 20k+ plus of these reults,it get dino changes every 3-5k. Looses a little bit of coolant perhaps a cup or so every 6 months. The more you look the more potential problems you'll find. UOA's have their place and are a useful tool but the average Joe who see's the commercial touting the EP's ability to go 15k will do it cause Mobil says so.Who knows,my buddy ran his brand new 1979 Cutlas on 10k dino changes for it's entire life,he got rid of it 17 years later as it was approaching 180k without an oil related issue with the engine.