Nano Pro MT Oil Stabilzer

[Donald]

Anyone Familiar "Nano Pro MT Oil Stabilizer?" I've read it was designed through the military and it is some pretty good stuff. I want to add heightened protection to my 2004 Chevy Trailblazer with the Vortec 4200 VVT I6? it has 153,000 miles on it. I just bought it and since I don't know about the oil change history, I'm just guessing they ran regular conventional oil in the motor. I've only had the vehicle a month and despite the fact that it runs okay. I had to get the VVT sensor replaced already. I've read these engines are sensitive to oil condition. Thanks for any help.

Use quality oil that meets the spec in owners manual. Change according to OLM or owners manual. Forget oil additives.

Where did you read that they are sensitive to oil condition??

 

[Astro14]

Well, Being that the case. There is still cold start up issues tearing up your engine and the like. how do you combat that problem?

So, if the previous owner didn’t use this miracle in a can, then they must have had “cold start issues tearing up” the engine, right?

How did the engine make it to 150,000 miles?

Particularly since it’s “sensitive”?

A sensitive engine should be torn up by now, shouldn’t it?

 

[Strokenmerc]

Rest easy, the motor in your Trailblazer will live a long life on off the shelf oils. I currently have 222k miles on nothing but clearance xw30 & 40 synthetics. No additives needed in my opinion. Currently running M1 0w40 which will continue for nearly everything I service until the stash is depleted.

 

[Shel_B]

It's not using oil per say. I'm just trying to find a good product for added protection because of these VVT engines design. Most stabilizers are just oil thickeners. Do you feel that way about this Nano MT Pro?

A good product would be a quality synthetic oil in a grade appropriate for the use, environment, and condition of the engine. Look to Valvoline, Mobil 1, Pennzoil, and others, or a decent lower-price choice like Walmart's SuperTech of Costco's oils.

 

[RDY4WAR]

Sorry it has all the verbiage of another snake oil product.

A suspicious few eye catchers:

Extends oil life by 100%? I doubt it.

Improves HP? Maybe.

Improves thermal efficiency of oil, up to 60% faster in reducing oil temperatures. How?

Several other "snake oil" products make similar claims. I'd pass and stick to a good synthetic oil. JMO

Exactly. Extends life by 100% is not going to happen. If anything, it'll likely increase shearing and oxidative thickening.

Increasing viscosity will increase hydrodynamic friction so if anything, you'll lose power.

VI polymers have little to no effect on an oil's specific heat so there's no way it's going to reduce oil temperature. Even if it could, you wouldn't want it to. Heat drives additive response which is what you want for wear protection.

However, they likely don't really care. The $500k FTC fine is worth it when they've made their millions on the product. They'll release it again under a different label and make a few million more.

 

[Nitro1320]

Like most here, I am not a big user of any additives but if I was Lubegard would be my only choice.
I have used it and it isn't snake oil.

Use quality oil that meets the spec in owners manual. Change according to OLM or owners manual. Forget oil additives.

Where did you read that they are sensitive to oil condition??

I read numerous articles on many vehicles with VVT engines that had issues. A week after I bought this vehicle from a Car dealership I had to have the VVT sensor replaced so I just did some digging and sure enough the Vortec 4200 has VVT issues do to oil.

 

[Nitro1320]

Exactly. Extends life by 100% is not going to happen. If anything, it'll likely increase shearing and oxidative thickening.

Increasing viscosity will increase hydrodynamic friction so if anything, you'll lose power.

VI polymers have little to no effect on an oil's specific heat so there's no way it's going to reduce oil temperature. Even if it could, you wouldn't want it to. Heat drives additive response which is what you want for wear protection.

However, they likely don't really care. The $500k FTC fine is worth it when they've made their millions on the product. They'll release it again under a different label and make a few million more.

I'm not trying to increase viscosity, I'm just trying to make sure the engine is well lubricated because of the VVT. I usually don't have concerns about my vehicles to this point, but this is my first experience with a VVT engine.

 

[wemay]

https://www.motor.com/magazine-summary/trouble-shooter-september-2017/

"Poor oil change maintenance may allow metal particles and oil sludge to accumulate at the actuator solenoid, clogging its passages and causing the solenoid to stick. You can visually confirm this by first removing the power steering pump, then the actuator solenoid. A clogged actuator solenoid must be replaced. More recent designs are intended to do a better job of keeping the gunk out of the actuator solenoid’s small passages, but it’s still vital to stress the importance of sticking to recommended oil change intervals to prevent a reoccurrence of the problem."

 

[rob1715]

Every generation has their Dura Lube and other engine treatments. This is the latest, and yet, millions of cars go millions of miles without it.

 

[Brons2]

Hmm. They claim that:

"Nano Pro MT is the first full-line of performance lubricants, coolants and greases powered by advanced Nanotechnology that has been vetted through lab and real-world testing by the U.S. Military, Boeing Aircraft, NASCAR, Indy and IMSA race teams to name a few."

Yet they don't seem to offer any of these test results on their website. Snake oil until they prove otherwise.

 

[proffittmarke]

Anyone Familiar "Nano Pro MT Oil Stabilizer?" I've read it was designed through the military and it is some pretty good stuff. I want to add heightened protection to my 2004 Chevy Trailblazer with the Vortec 4200 VVT I6? it has 153,000 miles on it. I just bought it and since I don't know about the oil change history, I'm just guessing they ran regular conventional oil in the motor. I've only had the vehicle a month and despite the fact that it runs okay. I had to get the VVT sensor replaced already. I've read these engines are sensitive to oil condition. Thanks for any help.

I bought a couple bottles on sale 2 years ago. It turned the oil almost black immediately, Oh so I did not use it anymore in my vehicle. I use it in my old lawn more now and it honestly runs like a new mower. It is quieter with less vibration. Not so sure what it did in my automotive dancing, but it did wonders in my Briggs & Stratton.

 

[RDY4WAR]

Hmm. They claim that:

"Nano Pro MT is the first full-line of performance lubricants, coolants and greases powered by advanced Nanotechnology that has been vetted through lab and real-world testing by the U.S. Military, Boeing Aircraft, NASCAR, Indy and IMSA race teams to name a few."

Yet they don't seem to offer any of these test results on their website. Snake oil until they prove otherwise.

I can assure you that no "nanotechnology" is used in any NASCAR engine oil and highly unlikely in Indy and IMSA. I would say it's deceptive marketing at its finest but Lucas's plastic gear display takes the cake on that one.

 

[kschachn]

I bought a couple bottles on sale 2 years ago. It turned the oil almost black immediately, Oh so I did not use it anymore in my vehicle. I use it in my old lawn more now and it honestly runs like a new mower. It is quieter with less vibration. Not so sure what it did in my automotive dancing, but it did wonders in my Briggs & Stratton.

You should send the company a testimonial.

 

[RDY4WAR]

I'm not trying to increase viscosity, I'm just trying to make sure the engine is well lubricated because of the VVT. I usually don't have concerns about my vehicles to this point, but this is my first experience with a VVT engine.

Adding that supplement would be more detrimental to VVT than helpful. What do you think the engine oil is lacking that it can't handle a VVT engine?

 

[Astro14]

Gentlemen, let’s take it easy on the new guy.

He’s asking a question, legitimately.

While this topic is old hat for the membership here on BITOG, it’s new to him.

 

[Nitro1320]

Gentlemen, let’s take it easy on the new guy.

He’s asking a question, legitimately.

While this topic is old hat for the membership here on BITOG, it’s new to him.

Thanks, I appreciate the understanding. I am new to this. I don't mean to be ignorant.

Adding that supplement would be more detrimental to VVT than helpful. What do you think the engine oil is lacking that it can't handle a VVT engine

this is my first vehicle with a VVT engine. I've read a few articles on these engines having problems with oil. I'll find these articles and post them on here if you like?

Adding that supplement would be more detrimental to VVT than helpful. What do you think the engine oil is lacking that it can't handle a VVT engine?

I'm not sure what the oil would be lacking. This is my firstt time owning a vehicle with a VVT engine. I have already had to have the VVT sensor soleniod replaced and I have already read a few articles on the VVT engine having issues with oil. I'll find them and post them on here if you like?

 

[Nitro1320]

Gentlemen, let’s take it easy on the new guy.

He’s asking a question, legitimately.

While this topic is old hat for the membership here on BITOG, it’s new to him.

Thanks for understanding. I've been having a lot of bad luck recently in the used vehicle department with engines and I just got this vehicle because it was the only thing I could afford on the lot and wouldn't you know it, it has a engine I'm not fimiliar with....

 

[Nitro1320]

https://www.motor.com/magazine-summary/trouble-shooter-september-2017/

"Poor oil change maintenance may allow metal particles and oil sludge to accumulate at the actuator solenoid, clogging its passages and causing the solenoid to stick. You can visually confirm this by first removing the power steering pump, then the actuator solenoid. A clogged actuator solenoid must be replaced. More recent designs are intended to do a better job of keeping the gunk out of the actuator solenoid’s small passages, but it’s still vital to stress the importance of sticking to recommended oil change intervals to prevent a reoccurrence of the problem."

Thanks for the help. I appreciate it....

 

[Nitro1320]

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Buy any of the Diesel truck marketed 5w40 syn and change it out every 3k it will be like a diswasher inside soon.

Thanks

 

[Shel_B]

https://www.motor.com/magazine-summary/trouble-shooter-september-2017/

"Poor oil change maintenance may allow metal particles and oil sludge to accumulate at the actuator solenoid, clogging its passages and causing the solenoid to stick. You can visually confirm this by first removing the power steering pump, then the actuator solenoid. A clogged actuator solenoid must be replaced. More recent designs are intended to do a better job of keeping the gunk out of the actuator solenoid’s small passages, but it’s still vital to stress the importance of sticking to recommended oil change intervals to prevent a reoccurrence of the problem."

I don't see how the Nano additive can mitigate this problem. Is anyone able to explain how this would work?