Why am I getting the impression that the newer oils lately are suddenly "not as good" as in the past? pour points raising, GTL seemingly not being so good, etc. is it just me?
I can tell you that 508 00 stuff is thin thin thin. and feels very majority PAO.
Thin? Yes
Majority PAO? No
Having seen the vw508 msds for:
Mobil1
Castrol
Shell
Total
Valvoline
Liqui Moly
Amsoil...
The highest content pao 508 i know of is Castrol with 50%.
Mobil1 ESP X2 is 20% and many others use less than that. Most are GroupIII with
I haven't seen the msds for Motul or Ravenol.
Which Castrol is this? Is this the BC 0W30?Thin? Yes
Majority PAO? No
Having seen the vw508 msds for:
Mobil1
Castrol
Shell
Total
Valvoline
Liqui Moly
Amsoil...
The highest content pao 508 i know of is Castrol with 50%.
Mobil1 ESP X2 is 20% and many others use less than that. Most are GroupIII with
I haven't seen the msds for Motul or Ravenol.
And yet you can still buy numerous oils that meet the most demanding of approvals, some at Walmart for very low prices.Why am I getting the impression that the newer oils lately are suddenly "not as good" as in the past? pour points raising, GTL seemingly not being so good, etc. is it just me?
That would be a baseless assement.Just the other day, the weather was unseasonably warm, had the top down on my Camaro, pulled up next to a noisy car at a lengthy red light, and said to my wife "that guy must be running a high PAO content lube".
I linked it in a recent thread ...Is there a recent data sheet for the 0w30 EDGE?
Well if you dullards drove a light inline 4 tin can with a stick shift you, wouldn't be so isolated from the engine.You can tell PAO content by feel?
Wow!
Like feel between your fingers or feel in your soul?
I drive a light inline 4 tin can with a stick shift, and I cannot distinguish between oil base stocks.Well if you dullards drove a light inline 4 tin can with a stick shift you, wouldn't be so isolated from the engine.
If I had a Silverardo with a LS I wouldn't know what was in there.
Just laying out my experience. I've won technical arguments with the PhD's in my old startup.I drive a light inline 4 tin can with a stick shift, and I cannot distinguish between oil base stocks.
Maybe I'm a dullard even with the right equipment.
Which Castrol is this? Is this the BC 0W30?
Save the name calling for recess on the playground.Well if you dullards drove a light inline 4 tin can with a stick shift you, wouldn't be so isolated from the engine.
If I had a Silverardo with a LS I wouldn't know what was in there.
Crap, my engines didn't get the memo.If you have run it, you know how its runs: somewhat clattery engine, lots of freed up power, and much lower instances of ring coking and sticking causing cylinder imbalance.
Well if you dullards drove a light inline 4 tin can with a stick shift you, wouldn't be so isolated from the engine.
If I had a Silverardo with a LS I wouldn't know what was in there.
Save the name calling for recess on the playground.
Tell us more about how you sense PAO content with your light inline 4 tin can with a stick shift.
Is it a feeling in the shifter?
A feeling through the seat?
Maybe the sound?
Something else???
Can you provide specifics as to how whatever this feeling is then correlates to PAO content?
Thanks!
I think Total has 70-80%. Could be wrong.Thin? Yes
Majority PAO? No
Having seen the vw508 msds for:
Mobil1
Castrol
Shell
Total
Valvoline
Liqui Moly
Amsoil...
The highest content pao 508 i know of is Castrol with 50%.
Mobil1 ESP X2 is 20% and many others use less than that. Most are GroupIII with
I haven't seen the msds for Motul or Ravenol.
I think Total has 70-80%. Could be wrong.
Don't know about you, but -40 degs C or F is awfully darn cold. Very few places in the Lower-48 see those temps. OTOH, Interior and the North Slope of Alaska see those temps regularly, but not Anchorage area or SE Alaska. Portions of Canada see those temps, but they are not overly populated.Yes, which explains why it is a 5w-xx and not a 0w-xx as that CCS translates into ~7,600cP at -35C and the MRV becomes ~25,000cP at -40C assuming there isn't a sudden change in wax crystal formation driving it higher.