Originally Posted by 69GTX
I'm waiting on the Singer OEM certification for this oil.................that's Singer Sewing.
Well, let's see. M1 0w-16 oil is 7.4 cSt at 100C. Since you're taking the liberty of looking at oil for other types of machinery (sewing machines for you -- you into sewing?), I'll take the same liberty and take a look at the one of the baseline standards for jet engine oil, MIL-L-23699 (that was the oil for normal and hot temps when I was flying in the Marines). Depending upon who's making the particular oil, it is only about 5.0 cSt at 100C. During those years, I had a couple failures and shut-downs, but none EVER related to the oil (nor obviously its horrible thin-ness...).
No, no, don't start with the, "jet engines are different..." stuff -- you're throwing out "sewing machine oil" fer cryin' out loud. Ha, ha. We've seen what occasional engineering disasters do to car makers and with the internet, the vast amounts of bad publicity that follows such episodes. Fifteen-plus years ago, it was the two Toyota "sludgemaker" engines, that people are STILL talking about (somewhat) today. Now, Honda is going through it with the fuel dilution disaster afflicting its widely used 1.5L Turbo engine. That's a nightmare, with blogs, websites, class-action lawsuits, CHINESE consumer protection authorities issuing a stop-sales order, and so on.
And now look!!! Thousands of consumers with new and middle age cars are finding their internals melted down because of using 20wt oils! Sixty-Minutes is doing an expose' on the dangers of corruptly specified 0w-16 and 20 oils! There are now over a hundred blogs and websites formed by and serving owners of cars whose engines were ruined by 16 and 20 wt oil!!! There are dozens of class action law-suits against Honda, Toyota, Chevrolet, Ford and others for corruptly requiring the use of 16 and 20 wt oils!!! Consumer protection authorities in many states have recently ordered Mobil and others to stop selling these oils because of the many engine failures!!!
Oh wait, that's right -- none of these things have happened. . . Obviously, higher vis oils have their legitimate place, but fer cryin' out loud, Xw-20 oils have been in common use for over 20 years now, the 16s in Japan for at least a decade, and Xw-8 oils are in use as well. Twenty years now.
