Maybe I was overreacting to something that is normal? I've only been doing all of my own maintenance / repairs for two years. Never seen that while doing an oil change before.
It's summer and I do a TON of driving ... even moreso on the Focus now that gas is >$4 a gallon. My Cherokee just costs too much to drive at 13mpg.
I'll probably run this oil (m1 0-20) to 3500 miles, do a UOA on some fluid and change the filter. Then top it off and go to 4500 or so again.
Originally Posted By: Loobed
Originally Posted By: Miller88
My parents have a 2008 Jeep with a lifetime powertrane warranty; it knocks and burns oil (and we've found metal in the oil as well) and chrysler says it's normal.
No vehicle manufacturer gives a lifetime powertrain warranty. The power train includes the engine and the engine will wear out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powertrain
Chrysler did for a bit ... I don't think they realized that the engines in said Wranglers would self destruct at 50k miles ...
It's been good for a few CV Shafts, u joints and axle seals. I'd hate to see how the thing would hold up if my parents ever left the pavement with it ...
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
I can think of one other thing to ask he OP.
Did he put seafoam into the intake at any point, any other maintenance like that he can think of.
NO. I don't use seafoam. Tried it once on my first car and the intake manifold exploded during the seafoam treatment.
Other than a handful of oil changes, I've rotated the tires, put on snow tires, changed the wiper blades and replaced the carpet (Long story)
Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
I wouldn't try to use someone else's receipts or otherwise lie about it, aside from the fact it is dishonest and a fine example of not taking responsibility for one's actions
they probably won't buy it anyway and they will be disinclined to try to help when they catch
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Honesty is the best policy (even though I mentioned trading it ...). If they ask, I'm going to tell them what I used ... it's also written in the log book.
Originally Posted By: johnachak
Originally Posted By: Trav
I agree its not uncommon to very small specs in the filter but the only problem i have with this is why are they not in the filter? Are the particles he saw come out in the oil to big to pass through the oil pickup screen.
I think that would be a problem.
How about this.. in warming it up for the oil change, it reached high enough rpms to go to bypass and some flakes were dislodged into the pan?
I drove it on the highway at 70mph for 70 miles or so. Let the car idle in the driveway for a minute, drove it on the ramps and immediately drained the oil.
Originally Posted By: Bladecutter
Is this engine a timing chain engine, or a timing belt engine?
If it were my car, and a timing chain engine, I would pop off the valve cover, and look around the timing chain areas to see if the chain has stretched, and is hitting the block or valve cover anywhere.
If yes, then I would take the car into the dealer, and tell them you just did an oil change, saw shavings in the oil that you drained, popped off the valve cover, and saw damage.
They won't deny the warranty if you have visible evidence of damage.
And honestly, just having a log book with so much information in it, you might meet their requirement for documentation, even without receipts. Some dealers are very forgiving if you have lots of information, but no actual receipts.
BC.
Timing Chain. But pulling off stuff on a brand new car ... kind of worries me.
It's summer and I do a TON of driving ... even moreso on the Focus now that gas is >$4 a gallon. My Cherokee just costs too much to drive at 13mpg.
I'll probably run this oil (m1 0-20) to 3500 miles, do a UOA on some fluid and change the filter. Then top it off and go to 4500 or so again.
Originally Posted By: Loobed
Originally Posted By: Miller88
My parents have a 2008 Jeep with a lifetime powertrane warranty; it knocks and burns oil (and we've found metal in the oil as well) and chrysler says it's normal.
No vehicle manufacturer gives a lifetime powertrain warranty. The power train includes the engine and the engine will wear out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powertrain
Chrysler did for a bit ... I don't think they realized that the engines in said Wranglers would self destruct at 50k miles ...
It's been good for a few CV Shafts, u joints and axle seals. I'd hate to see how the thing would hold up if my parents ever left the pavement with it ...
Originally Posted By: antiqueshell
I can think of one other thing to ask he OP.
Did he put seafoam into the intake at any point, any other maintenance like that he can think of.
NO. I don't use seafoam. Tried it once on my first car and the intake manifold exploded during the seafoam treatment.
Other than a handful of oil changes, I've rotated the tires, put on snow tires, changed the wiper blades and replaced the carpet (Long story)
Originally Posted By: DuckRyder
I wouldn't try to use someone else's receipts or otherwise lie about it, aside from the fact it is dishonest and a fine example of not taking responsibility for one's actions
Honesty is the best policy (even though I mentioned trading it ...). If they ask, I'm going to tell them what I used ... it's also written in the log book.
Originally Posted By: johnachak
Originally Posted By: Trav
I agree its not uncommon to very small specs in the filter but the only problem i have with this is why are they not in the filter? Are the particles he saw come out in the oil to big to pass through the oil pickup screen.
I think that would be a problem.
How about this.. in warming it up for the oil change, it reached high enough rpms to go to bypass and some flakes were dislodged into the pan?
I drove it on the highway at 70mph for 70 miles or so. Let the car idle in the driveway for a minute, drove it on the ramps and immediately drained the oil.
Originally Posted By: Bladecutter
Is this engine a timing chain engine, or a timing belt engine?
If it were my car, and a timing chain engine, I would pop off the valve cover, and look around the timing chain areas to see if the chain has stretched, and is hitting the block or valve cover anywhere.
If yes, then I would take the car into the dealer, and tell them you just did an oil change, saw shavings in the oil that you drained, popped off the valve cover, and saw damage.
They won't deny the warranty if you have visible evidence of damage.
And honestly, just having a log book with so much information in it, you might meet their requirement for documentation, even without receipts. Some dealers are very forgiving if you have lots of information, but no actual receipts.
BC.
Timing Chain. But pulling off stuff on a brand new car ... kind of worries me.
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