Glad I scrolled down, you wrote what I was gonna write. Like back in the early days of BITOG when America's roadways were lined with broken down vehicles caused by the Fram "Orange Can of Death".
Metal in Engine Oil Break-in
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Can't speak for Toyota, but at Allison our transmission cases went through a pretty thorough high pressure wash and dry after machining. That machine station was about as big as a one car garage.
If they are held in the filter why are we seeing tons of glitter and big chunks in the drained oil?
It's the glitter that really worries me.
Any UOAs that I've done demonstrated that wear stability for my engines at 8 to 11,000 miles. However; ~75% of the break-in was completed by 8K miles and the remaining miles suggested that the miles/time was polishing and burnishing.
Because there are particles that are small enough to pass through the filter.
Yes.
And I want those particles out - - they are big enough to be seen by the naked eye.
It's all good though - - - we all do things differently.)
I did my second oil change on my 2.7 turbo at 10,00p miles and had the same glitters, albeit a little less. Consensus seems to be this is normal. Atleast i hope so lol
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Is this normal for first oil change after 21 hours on a generator. Taken with an iPhone 13 Pro Max on macro, which can zoom in quit a bit a bit at 2 cm and still focus.
The sandy grain looking thins present as shiny specs to the naked eye. There was one rather large sliver of metal (seen at bottom left of the photos), but I think that was from the metal housing that I gnashed up with channel lock pliers when I was taking the thing apart.
The sandy grain looking thins present as shiny specs to the naked eye. There was one rather large sliver of metal (seen at bottom left of the photos), but I think that was from the metal housing that I gnashed up with channel lock pliers when I was taking the thing apart.
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That media looks extremely clean. What model generator?
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Also, maybe a stupid question, but I did save the oil, and after this I'm thinking of sending in for a UOA. My stupid question is, I used an empty milk jug to catch the oil. Would this contaminate the sample? Might've been 1/2 a tsp worth of milk coating the sides.
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Used oil that's being drained from the oil pan, is where I always draw a UOA sample from. I always try to time the halfway point of the oil drain.
I would never send-in a sample contaminated with anything foreign, including warm, soured milk.
I would never send-in a sample contaminated with anything foreign, including warm, soured milk.
This is normal and proof that engines do shed break in material. That’s why I always dump the original oil early and never keep it a full OCI.
Your oil looks normal and there isn’t really fine glitter in there.
Below is an example of fine glitter. This is from my recent CVT change, but engine oil can have it too during break in period.
Your oil looks normal and there isn’t really fine glitter in there.
Below is an example of fine glitter. This is from my recent CVT change, but engine oil can have it too during break in period.
I've been changing oil for over half a century. Toyota, Honda, BMW, Mini, Nissan, Kawasaki, Yamaha, Harley, Subaru, Mazda, Chevrolet, Ford, Volvo, Saab. I've always used a black catch-pan. I cannot recall a single time that I did not see at least some "sparkles" in the used oil each and every time. I've NEVER had an engine with a mechanical failure. Electrical or fuel failures...sure. No mechanical failures. This is within normal expectation in my experience.
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With 3 oil changes before 4k miles, they’d all be wasted money… really even following OEM change guidelines anything before 20k is of dubious value…
High suggest you switch to a synthetic filter with good micron ratings. Also, invest in a magnetic drain plug. UOA’s can only detect metal you can’t see. Fram Endurance or Synthetic are good choices, Purolator Boss is very highly rated as well. What I run. Toyota OEM filters have abysmal filtration efficiency rating. Very good flow rates, but crap filtration. You can do much better.
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