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All this m/t talk makes me miss driving one. Wish I had one now.
I knew it. Three pages to finally come clean Lou!
Manual transmission "snobs"?
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Ah ha! A snob in the closet!
I spent 42 years as a long distance trucker driving 15 and 20 speed transmissions.
75 feet of vehicle and 80,000 lbs in rush hour traffic being cutoff by people in 4 wheelers and had to brake then build it up through the gears again.
Boy I feel SO SORRY for those who complain that they have to endure driving that synchronized 4 speed in your car.
When I bought my current Corvette I shopped till I found one with a ZF 6 speed manual in it.
I don't think a car with a auto is a sports car regardless what kind of car it is.
I own some vehicles with slush box tyranny's in them and I hate th am so I guess I'm a MT snobby.
75 feet of vehicle and 80,000 lbs in rush hour traffic being cutoff by people in 4 wheelers and had to brake then build it up through the gears again.
Boy I feel SO SORRY for those who complain that they have to endure driving that synchronized 4 speed in your car.
When I bought my current Corvette I shopped till I found one with a ZF 6 speed manual in it.
I don't think a car with a auto is a sports car regardless what kind of car it is.
I own some vehicles with slush box tyranny's in them and I hate th am so I guess I'm a MT snobby.
I drive agressivly, changing lanes, havy braking etc... and most of the time there is a lot of traffic so it means constant lane changing, braking/accelerating and I have to pay a lot of attention for other cars, traffic changes, road conditions, cops, have both hands on the wheel and also change tracks in my radio once in the while. So with M/T that would be totaly impossible. M/T is a huge distraction IMHO. Robert Farago of TTAC wrote an article about it once and contrary to most car buffs he basicly said everything I just said. And I do know how to drive stick shift, first car I used to learn how to drive had one. Didn't like it. But it was while ago so I might even try to go back to it, but pretty sure it's not gonna be easy taking my driving style and circumstances into the consideration.
Rally car and Nascar drivers, to name a few, drive in far more attention-demanding conditions and don't seem to be distracted by their manual transmissions. I think if you had more experience at driving stick you'd know that it's not something you have to think about while you're doing it. It does take awhile to get a good feel for it.
Good point, but in the race you still maintain steady speed. you never stop, have to watch for road signs, lights, pedestrians while in regular street driving there is a lot more and often speed differences and obstacles that require lots of shifting due to constant speed variation.
Like how? i can see it help you get going, but other than that what can you possibly benefit from?
Have you ever seen a rally race? That's all they practically do is shift.
yeah i've seen it. still there is less distractions
I don't like to speed up, just to hit the brakes right away. With a MT, I can accelerate into a slot in another lane then let the engine braking slow me to match the speeds of cars in that lane.
Oilnoob talks about hard accelerations and hard braking -- I'd rather just stay in the right gear, it's easier on the engine, tranny, brakes, and most other major components.
It's easier to sense just how much traction you have. And before ABS, it was safer because you could avoid using the brakes so much, thereby preventing skids from locked brakes.
Does engine braking create more engine strain/wear in a M/T? Or is it better to use the brakes?
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Does engine braking create more engine strain/wear in a M/T? Or is it better to use the brakes?
I'll let you know when my engine wears out - 220k miles so far. Original clutch, front rotors and rear drums. I brake when necessary.
Oilnoob, you don't drive like a M/T or A/T "snob"; it sounds like you drive like an #@$%!.
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Does engine braking create more engine strain/wear in a M/T? Or is it better to use the brakes?
I'll let you know when my engine wears out - 220k miles so far. Original clutch, front rotors and rear drums. I brake when necessary.
Oilnoob, you don't drive like a M/T or A/T "snob"; it sounds like you drive like an #@$%!.
I never said I was a "snob". I don't like that word. and i also don't consider myself an #@$%!. i drive how I want. it's not my fault you got low speed limits and people hog left lane all the time. If it was an autobahn i wouldn't have to resort to this type of driving. it's slow(defensive), inconsidarate self-absorbed drivers that cut you off without even looking just because they are in hurry- are real #@$%!.
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If you own a sports car,a manual tranny is a requirement.
My 96 3000GT was a manual. Traded it in for a 98 3000GT auto,got reallyyyyyyyyy bored with the auto,sold it and got my Z32 which has the obligatory manual 5-speed tranny! Once you own a sports car with a manual,you`ll never ever go back to an auto in a sports car.
My 96 3000GT was a manual. Traded it in for a 98 3000GT auto,got reallyyyyyyyyy bored with the auto,sold it and got my Z32 which has the obligatory manual 5-speed tranny! Once you own a sports car with a manual,you`ll never ever go back to an auto in a sports car.
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Your hard braking and accelerating patterns tell me that you don't understand physics all that well. its not particularly necessary, to get around even on congested roads.
And those slow drivers you speak of are the same ones that want an applicane box to get from A to B, and are exactly the same people who want ATs, so that they don't have to pay attention to their driving. Whether youre starting/stopping hard and "paying attention" to the road such that you can weave and drive aggressively, or youre driving slow and inattentively, its all poor driving ability, and a feeling of entitlement and invincibility that is not there.
Bad accidents and broken necks will likely be the payout.
JMH
I once had a 1987 Ford Escort Pony with stick shift that had a shift indicator light in the dash. Quite annoying when you're still accelerating and the light comes on.
Someone mentioned a semi-automatic transmission. My ex had a 1971 Chevy Nova with the inline 6 and used a variation of the 2 speed PowerGlide with the PRNDL pattern. You had to move the selector to the "Low" position to start out and move it to "D" once you were above 20mph. If you came to a stop still in high gear, it wouldn't stall. It used Dexron II and the owner's manual stated that the transmission could overheat if you were driving below 20mph in "D". Very interesting setup as I never saw another car like that.
Someone mentioned a semi-automatic transmission. My ex had a 1971 Chevy Nova with the inline 6 and used a variation of the 2 speed PowerGlide with the PRNDL pattern. You had to move the selector to the "Low" position to start out and move it to "D" once you were above 20mph. If you came to a stop still in high gear, it wouldn't stall. It used Dexron II and the owner's manual stated that the transmission could overheat if you were driving below 20mph in "D". Very interesting setup as I never saw another car like that.
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