Made the "switch" from M1 to Valvoline Synthetics
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VOA's tell you extremely little of value about an oil. Many constituents are organic and don't show up for example. You only get a rough idea of metallic elements and even then, no information on compounds.
It's like trying to determine how attractive someone is by looking at their ankles.
I'm a big Valvoline fan. I runs absolutely fantastic in my engines!
Never met someone with ankle partialism?
Not going to disagree with you. Appreciate the info. Still think he won’t be too far behind the curve running Valvoline. Good oil.
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Can you talk a little bit about why DO NOT use GL5?
I recently changed some diff fluid as well.. different application, but, I know nothing about. Differential fluid...
I uase valvoline Synthetic quite often. Also use Mobil 1 as well.
I’ve switched from Amsoil to Valvoline specifically because Valvoline EP is $25 for 5qts and so far it seems to be running quieter in my 2010 Crown Vic
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Nope, Valvoline is not bad at all, good oil. You really would have a hard time going wrong with any of the major lubricants on a sane interval.Never met someone with ankle partialism?
Not going to disagree with you. Appreciate the info. Still think he won’t be too far behind the curve running Valvoline. Good oil.
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Diffs are typically fine, it's manual transmissions (and perhaps some transfer cases) that use metals that are not compatible with GL-5.
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If I read his op correctly, he's talking about changing the standard tranny fluid? If it specs a GL4, the additives in the GL5 will cause gear clash.
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I'm going to get a base level of knowledge about this from here because I really don't know anything about it besides what you're telling me.
I have a car where I changed out about a quart of diff fluid, I decided to be a little bit of spending and I got the Royal Purple 75w 90 so that stuff seems to be a limited slip... not getting sidetracked on the Royal Purple part I know it's the same as every other fluid but the limited-slip part. Is the limited-slip designation something you want to avoid or is it fine in automatic transmission or what are some general
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It's fine, it just means it has a friction modifier in it already so that if you have a clutch-type limited slip diff (like my wife's truck) that it shouldn't chatter and you shouldn't need to add separate FM.
I have used mobil synthetic since 1985! Both cars & later in my bikes.
I found the market and marketting claims over confusing nowaday and specially when the oil manufacturers do not give you a straight anwser. So by default, I now assume every "full synthetic" claim= group 3 with sunthetic additives
I just switched to petronas 0w40 at the last oil change tp see if there is any difference to my regular M1.
The only way to tell any performance differences by driving the car is monitoring the mpg, oil cunsumption, cold star rattle, engine and oil temperatures over a period of 1 year or a and OCI
I found the market and marketting claims over confusing nowaday and specially when the oil manufacturers do not give you a straight anwser. So by default, I now assume every "full synthetic" claim= group 3 with sunthetic additives
I just switched to petronas 0w40 at the last oil change tp see if there is any difference to my regular M1.
The only way to tell any performance differences by driving the car is monitoring the mpg, oil cunsumption, cold star rattle, engine and oil temperatures over a period of 1 year or a and OCI
Been using Valvoline for almost 35 years in everything that needs lubrication with great results. Never blew anything up and I have fun with my stuff.
To update on this.
I used the valvoline advanced 5w30 and oem filter for engine and redline gl-4 mt85 synthetic for the transmission in the kia. Zero issues to report and I will continue this combination from here on out. Might even switch the sonata over to valvoline advanced on the next oil change after next if M1 is over 30$ Per 5 qt jug. Can’t complain at all.
I used the valvoline advanced 5w30 and oem filter for engine and redline gl-4 mt85 synthetic for the transmission in the kia. Zero issues to report and I will continue this combination from here on out. Might even switch the sonata over to valvoline advanced on the next oil change after next if M1 is over 30$ Per 5 qt jug. Can’t complain at all.
Some would say that Valvoline is just as good, if not better than M1 anyways.Short Thread, I got cheap is all that happened here$23.97 for Valvoline full synthetic 5Qt vs 29.84 for M1. As much as i love M1 i don't think it and offers five dollars+ more protection, per OCI, (that almost pays for the OEM Hyundai oil filter) so Valvoline it is for now. Its for the Hyundai/Kia 2.4L coupe that's far from picky on oil, so as long as it clean-ish and full... The last time I used Valvoline synthetic oil was an honest 15 years ago, but it never let me down, i also used Valvoline maxlife ATF red recently for the Elantra automaitic transmission, and it shifted perfect.
The perception I have on Valvoline is it's meant for old vehicles and it's kind of thick lol but im probably wrong it's just I remember that name when I first started driving, and was equivalent to a Band-Aid in a bottle for older vehicles.
Also going to change the manual transmission fluid before i put in Amsoil. So i will drain and fill transmission using the Valvoline 75W90 synthetic fluid. use for a few days until amsoil gets here, and change it again.. I called Kia dealer, and they dont have qts of 75W90, and told me just to go to autostore, and pick up 75W90 GL-4, and change it out, no special fluid required so thats what i did.
Don't get me wrong this is not a bashing thread of M1, I will still pay the premium and use it in the Sonata, and change it twice a year about every 6-7K miles per OCI. I will also change the coupes oil twice a year, but i might only have 3-5K miles on the OCI.. and OEM Hyundai filters are what i use now thanks to BITOG.
Thats where im at this am.
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